Some personal suggestions for Diadem.

[JethroTull]

Honestly, I'm quite enjoying this new kind of content, but I think it needs a bit of tinkering.

- Join in progress;
- Need/Greed on ilvl210 items. Cannot change class during these rolls;
- Lower droprate for ilvl210 in Normal mode;
- Possibility to join as an Alliance;
- More than 3 objectives required, if not all. Objectives add a purpose in pure exploring and make gathering useful for the party, but atm the fun ends too early;
- Chance to gather Diadem-only Maps that spawn rank V or star. May be another way to make Gathering useful for the whole party instead of the gatherer only;
- More interesting stuff to buy with Brass tokens;
- A sort of Diadem "Gathering mode".
Join as gatherer in DF. You get paried with a gatherer-only party. Objectives are all gathering-related. You can't change to a combat class inside. Stealth must obviously work properly for this to work.

[Phireblast]

Make any Diadem equipment that you've put into a gearset untradeable, or at least have a hide gearset item option at the spoils trader. I lost a 210 ring yesterday because of my stupidity, and I don't want others to suffer the same fate.

[Myrhn]

In my opinion

-Join in progress don't think will be posible. Just imagine join in progress to a party that only have 20-10mins and eat the 1hr and a half or more cooldown period.
-Need/Greed on ilvl210 i would expand to ilvl150 and ilvl180. Make it so that is there is loot on the loot list no one can change jobs.
-Lower drop rate on Normal i'm ok with that one. Haven't go with my FC to know the difference.
-Possibility to join and make alliance inside Diadem think is a must have.
-More than 3 objective i'm also ok with that one. I would make it that if you don't complete the objective aka fail the instance, you loss everything you gather or gear that you get. That way it force people to do them and not just fly away and gather after gething the ability to fly.
-I would let the gathers away from the DoW/DoM i think that if they are there to gather they wont bother to tell if they got a map or not.
-More interesting rewards for DoW/DoM? What is more interesting than gear? You mean weapons too? If that so i'm against that.
-Diadem Gathering mode would be nice. A whole map without mobs just crystals, burried chest and gathering objective.

[JethroTull]

-More interesting rewards for DoW/DoM? What is more interesting than gear? You mean weapons too? If that so i'm against that.

My bad, I meant better stuff to buy with Brass tokens. Editing it now.

[Myrhn]

My bad, I meant better stuff to buy with Brass tokens. Editing it now.

Ahh I see then i'm totally up for that.

[Rin_Kuroi]

Wonderful suggestions. I'll add my own which kinda overlap with yours.

Suggestions for Diadem loot rules

I'd like an option that that automatically distributes i150 and i180 via round robin. There's nothing worse then going in for hours and getting only a few drops. It's also a pain to manually distribute the gear in a premade. I feel this should be the default setting for DF groups.

Kill contribution requirements need to scale to the number of people who are actually killing the monster in the party. Two major problems I see. Loot leeches. People who contribute nothing to the actual kill get to roll on loot. The other issue is not being counted as contributing because your party isn't full. I had three friends in a partial group (the rest of the members left the instance) and we didn't get credit on a star rank despite being there for the entire fight.

[Rhaja]

So far I've only got one very solid run in but I can already tell what I want from the next Diadem style map, and that's all ground only in Black Shroud. Starting out without flying was possibly the best part. There was a sense of tension for a change, and after seeing a bad pull and half the party die it was oddly exciting to know if we do this wrong we're screwed. Once you get flying that all goes out the window and it turns more into interesting hunts.

Something about having to be careful while trekking through a dense forest with only a few clearings as safe zones just sounds exciting, and would be a nice mix up with the 80% safe flying content in Diadem.

Once I get a bad run I'll probably notice more of the flaws, but thankfully I have a large enough FC that it shouldn't be an issue.