Scion purchaseable sets limited by gender? Why?!

[Zeonx]

You're also wrong to say they don't owe us anything;.

Not really, because people have a split decision on this topic.

What about the half that doesn't want that to be a option in the game?

You just gonna say screw them? You don't care as long as you get what you want attitude? I'll walk on anyone till I get it?

See you can say that about the ones who don't want it, though its not even here to be a option so typically SE going to not choose as long as its a split choice.

SE doesn't really owe us anything really they don't, i think SE has done a good job so far on giving a lot of people what they want and not giving what people want.

Its their choice.

[Zeonx]

its all aesthetics, so what if i like my male miqo'te? i have been this character since I joined the game and have no desire to change it. why should i have to change my character just because i want to wear and item that males do not get? and I (personally) don't think its people complaining they want to wear a dress. look at any of the threads that were about males getting less gear. it has people complaining that SE is making gear for females and just giving men whatever is unisex. (even giving the male one to females)

back on topic, the gender limitation thing is more then likely a ploy to give off the illusion that SE is trying to put more male glamours out. heck all but minfilia's outfits can easily be replicated on any gender albeit some with DoW/DoM restrictions and some minor differences.

I can say the same thing for SE, why should they change their policy on this when its been a policy since the beginning?

What about the people who don't want it in the game? They are comfortable without it.

Why not ask SE for the Unisex thing but others cant see it except for you maybe that will change some peoples minds about it.

[Magis]

The conspiracy theories here...

The reason the scion gear is locked is because they didn't make anything. The NPC wear the scion gear as a full "body" item, like a Chocobo suit. So all they did was make a new item entry and give it's model the one the NPCs use. Since there were no "male" Minfilia models, they didn't bother making a male version.

The only new content was the Lalafell versions.

[NatSilverguard]

Of course the real problem is that they should just allow guys to wear the effing dresses if they want and do away with a good number of the gender restrictions, but since that doesn't seem to be on the cards...

i've been to japan a couple of times only so my knowledge is very limited. although there are cross-dressers in japan (like the bands in visual kei genre), it's still not widely acceptable, so i think, imho, male characters in dresses will not be happening anytime soon. i might be wrong because male CNJ already exist in game.

[Niwashi]

The reason the scion gear is locked is because they didn't make anything. The NPC wear the scion gear as a full "body" item, like a Chocobo suit. So all they did was make a new item entry and give it's model the one the NPCs use. Since there were no "male" Minfilia models, they didn't bother making a male version.

The only new content was the Lalafell versions.

If that was true, they'd be race as well as gender locked. There were five newly modeled versions of each piece, because the original NPC was only one of the six races. If they can adjust them to fit all races, then they can adjust them to fit both genders of all races.

i've been to japan a couple of times only so my knowledge is very limited. although there are cross-dressers in japan (like the bands in visual kei genre), it's still not widely acceptable, so i think, imho, male characters in dresses will not be happening anytime soon.

Don't confuse what real people will wear on the street in the real world with what characters in a fantasy video game might wear. SE has never had any problem with flamboyantly dressed male characters in previous FF games.

[raymon]

I can say the same thing for SE, why should they change their policy on this when its been a policy since the beginning?

What about the people who don't want it in the game? They are comfortable without it.

Why not ask SE for the Unisex thing but others cant see it except for you maybe that will change some peoples minds about it.

making gear that looks good on both genders is by far the best route to go. also SE may not be obligated to make changes on how they run things, but its also the right of the people who play the game to complain about things they do not like. regardless of silly the topic is.

[Niwashi]

I can say the same thing for SE, why should they change their policy on this when its been a policy since the beginning?

They've already changed their policy and we're telling them to change it back to what it had been at the beginning. Their policy when the game was released was that every single piece of equipment was available to both genders (occasionally as corresponding male and female versions). Their policy when the game started getting major patches remained that every single piece of equipment was available to both genders. Then, in later patches, they changed course and started developing a game that's exclusive to one gender, and locks out the rest of us.

What about the people who don't want it in the game? They are comfortable without it.

What possible relevance could that ever have? If you don't like one piece of gear, then choose something else. It's a totally different situation from not being allowed to choose because they're not made available to you.

[Dhex]

They have an imbalance of gear sets, they added another Bunny outfit this patch for MGP gender locked to females and no male counterpart... (again) so hey... things and things and rabble etc.

[Lukha]

What about the half that doesn't want that to be a option in the game?

You just gonna say screw them? You don't care as long as you get what you want attitude? I'll walk on anyone till I get it?

See, that sort of logic can just as easily apply in reverse; are the people who don't want more male glamour options in the game just saying screw those of us who do? They don't care about us as long as they get what they want? Why would they even care whether or not the options were in the game, since it's not like anyone will force them to use them? How would more male glamour items change their gaming experience for the worse? Because not having them is changing mine for the worse.

The bottom line is, SE has been unfair to their paying customers who play male characters; there's no need or reason for items to be gender locked beyond their own laziness. Their attempt to mollify us was lazy, half-hearted and unfair to both us AND players of female characters. So at this point they're hurting everyone, and I won't stop complaining until they hear us and put some effort into a real solution.

If that bothers you, you should avoid these topics, rather than coming in just to be unhelpful.

[Serilda]

What about the half that doesn't want that to be a option in the game?

You just gonna say screw them? You don't care as long as you get what you want attitude? I'll walk on anyone till I get it?

If you were to ask all FFXIV players with a male character whether they wanted to have fewer items than those with a female character or the same amount, which is exactly what this comes down to, I think it would be highly unlikely that half of that population would request to have fewer items when there's no drawback to equal treatment. Even if you have no personal desire to wear the locked shoes, cuffs or hats, having the option is nice. I strongly believe that the number of players who don't care or believe in equality would outnumber those who irrationally desire to be treated like lesser customers.

As we have said over and over this has not been S-E policy 'since the beginning'. The unfairness only began in March last year. Anyone who made their character prior to this new policy (and those who haven't been following these threads before signing up, i.e. everyone) was working on the information that their gender choice made no difference to what they would have access to. This turned out to be untrue. The fact that the best solution you can think of is for us to abandon our characters and pay S-E more money to change our character's gender and possibly also our in-game name shows how utterly unreasonable the argument against giving everyone fair treatment is.

Posting this FAQ again as we're getting the same misguided complaints every time this topic is mentioned: http://favoritismfantasyxiv.tumblr.c...ers-have-fewer

The original poster is angry because she is being treated the way that players with male characters are. It's obvious from some of the replies that many players with female characters are (were?) unaware this issue existed even though we guys keep 'whining' about it. Whether you agree that the male-locked Scion outfits are something the other posters should want or not, it's a fact that this entire situation is silly and needs resolving, permanently.