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  1. #11
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    Veralidaine's Avatar
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    Xhex Symphath
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    Faerie
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    Ninja Lv 60
    I've never played a game like it before, and I had trouble in the TUTORIAL. It would tell me to press a button on my controller and nothing would happen. Then when it told me to use the mini bombs to blow up a shield, I pUT the bombs on the shield, but took so long figuring it out that the tutorial timed out before I could discover the mystical special attack to make them do anything. I'm slightly bummed out at the complexity. While I didn't want something like Wows pet battles again, I also didn't want something that made my head hurt. I will go back and try again though.
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  2. #12
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    seraseth's Avatar
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    Velikayl Minx
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    From the sounds of it, they need a better (and free!) tutorial to help people get the hang of it, before layering on the challenges.

    I think I'll put off trying this for a few weeks, let some other kind soul figure out how it all works and write a better tutorial guide here on the forums
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  3. #13
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    Dark Brilliance
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    just stack the 10 cost minions with the one with attack buff and enjoy

    use 2 bombs to break their defense and thats pretty much it
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  4. #14
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    Gamer3427's Avatar
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    Rashi Shadowblade
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    Shiva
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    Machinist Lv 60
    I'm pretty sure I'm in love with Verminion. After first unlocking it, I played it for at least an hour or two straight. I would have played longer, but I forced myself to go check out some of the other content....

    My only real problem with it is that the controls on PS4 are a bit iffy at times, particularly when trying to group minions or activate specials on a specific minion within a group. It may prove to be better as I get more used to it, but it certainly seems like PC players have a bit of an early advantage in this regard.....

    Aside from that, is it just me, or does NPC zerg rush tactics work far better than when players use them. I have a strategy that works fairly well when playing against players that use such tactics, but when the NPCs use essentially the same methods, it seems like the only way to keep from being decimated are by using the same/similar methods. In particular, the mission against the Courls/Wolf Pups seemed unduly difficult if you didn't hit them with the same tactic the NPC was using, and even then was a bit hit and miss......
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  5. #15
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    Tint's Avatar
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkB View Post
    just stack the 10 cost minions with the one with attack buff and enjoy
    yeah, i am at challange 8 now, just using an army of tiny rats xD
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  6. #16
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    Gaige Ellsworth
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    Coeurl
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Veralidaine View Post
    I've never played a game like it before, and I had trouble in the TUTORIAL. It would tell me to press a button on my controller and nothing would happen. Then when it told me to use the mini bombs to blow up a shield, I pUT the bombs on the shield...
    Did you happen to figure out how to do this? I did the tutorial so many times last night and got stuck on this same issue each time. I would put them on the shield and nothing would happen. I tried pressing the big red button for their special attack and they still just bobbed around the shield doing nothing. Eventually, the tutorial would just time out and I'd lose my MGP Any help would be appreciated!
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  7. #17
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    Lorielle's Avatar
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    Lorielle Kurayami
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 80
    The problem with Lords of Verminion, despite its simplified form, the concept is derived from that which is obviously Lords of Vermillion. The game itself isn't easy to do at all even with Tutorial. It's something you just have to keep playing and getting practice in until you get a feel for your minions, actions, etc. Only then when you have battled enough and with that understanding, you will easily wash through the minigame we have now~
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  8. #18
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    Aeliott's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Aeliott Cadenza
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    It is overwhelming at first to get into but don't give up! I recommend doing AI stage 2 over until you feel more confident. It's very overwhelming, especially if you have a huge pool of minions, but you'll find yourself comfortably using only a small handful that you prefer anyway.

    For the AI challenges at least, some tips that might help you get into it:
    For the non-boss challenges, I recommend using your initial 60 cost to create 6 minions at Gate C that are strong against Arcana Stones (Mammets, Mummy's Little Mummy, Minion of Light (Warrior)). Have them go straight to the enemy's right-most crystal as in most of the matches they leave that side of the field ignored at first. They should go unhindered and quickly bring down the crystal, then just have them sweep right to left smashing the other crystals.
    Once the game has started, press R2 (don't know kb command) to view your opponent's minions and see what type they are (critter, monster, poppet, gadget). Whichever they're spawning, create your own minions that counter them (Critter > Poppet > Monster > Critter, Gadget no str/weak) and use them to defend your left and middle stones while your starter crew takes their crystals from under their nose. This won't be foolproof in the later stages, but it is very effective, and you'll almost always get that first crystal down without a hitch.

    Generally I've found there's not much point attacking the other points like the shields in these AI games, but they will be important in PVP.

    For controller holding down triangle selects everything you pass over until you release it, so it's basically your left-click and drag selection. I think the most annoying thing on controller is pressing right stick in to switch gates.

    You need at least 4 of the same minion together to use their special move. When their icon in your list in the upper right is flashing it's charged up and ready to go. If their skill has an aoe you will see its radius when you highlight it (L1+direction to navigate list, L1+Square to activate skill.)

    You'll hear people rave about Hildibrand minion, and he is very strong, but keep in mind the high summoning cost.

    Also, when enemies are in your arcana stone range, or vice versa, the minions will always prioritise enemy minions to the arcana stone.

    I know that's a random mishmash of info but I hope it's helpful.
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    Last edited by Aeliott; 11-14-2015 at 11:16 AM.

  9. #19
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    Malakai's Avatar
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    Malakai Bazluth
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    There's a whole rock paper scissor theme to it and it just does not add up. I'm on the Mandragora challenge now and I'll send in Monsters with High ATT and DEF to defend my stones against their mandies and a small group of weak Mandy's (which are critters, so are supposed to be weaker than monsters) just decimate the group. Then they take down the arcana stones like they were nothing and they don't even use the 5% dmg to arcana stone or any other moves. Meanwhile my 2 armies of black cats barely make a dent in their arcana stones even with the 5% dmg boosts.
    Edit: yes I know about strenghts and weaknesses on minions as well.
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    Last edited by Malakai; 11-14-2015 at 11:16 AM.

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  11. #20
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    Momoko Tomoko
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 100
    It's not actually regenerating. I'm not sure why they made it like that, but each arcana stone has a bunch of health bars, so when you deplete one, it will switch to the next health bar. The total health of a stone can be seen at the top of the screen.
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    The tiniest lala.

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