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  1. #1
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    StarDrake's Avatar
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    Yololo Yolo
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    Scion purchaseable sets limited by gender? Why?!

    So I was actually a bit excited for the purchasable Scion outfits - I know opinions on the cash shop are "divided", to say the least, but the hell with it, I'm willing to spend a little extra for more glamour options, especially ones that allow us to otherwise get around some of the armor type limitations that I feel shouldn't otherwise be there. (I am, in this case, talking about caligae not being available to casters in ARR+, a rule which Urianger breaks with abandon.)

    And then I see the items in question... and they're gender-limited.

    Hyperbolic as it may seem, this has me angry enough to spit teeth.

    Why?

    Because aside from Minfilia, all the original Scion outfits are based on generic armor models! There is no reason for them to be gender-limited!

    I mean, okay, I can at least understand why the Minfilia outfit is gender-limited (edit: though even then, nuts to it, see page 2) - it was originally designed as an exclusive outfit for a female Midlander NPC. I can see it being difficult to adapt for men (although it works on lady Lalafells easily enough), so, sure, that gets a pass. But there is nothing - nothing - about any of the other outfits that is gender-exclusive. In function, they're minor retextures of existing armor models. Hell, the existing Imperial Operative Dalmatica allowed you to do a pretty good impression of Y'shtola as it stood! And the shoes all the Scions wear are perfectly wearable by either gender!

    The gender divide on the Scion outfits is arbitrary, stupid, unnecessary, and I'm sure it's hampering sales significantly. Please make the Scion sets unisex!
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    Last edited by StarDrake; 11-12-2015 at 08:55 AM.
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    Because people wanted more male only gear because females get to wear nearly every item in the game.

    The community asked for this.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoWafflez View Post
    Because people wanted more male only gear because females get to wear nearly every item in the game.

    The community asked for this.
    Well, let's be honest. If they decided to make some of the scion outfits unisex... what you would really end up with is some outfits as "M/F" and some as "F only".

    On the one hand, I can understand the complaint. On the other, simply going "we'll add some male genderlocks too" seems a bit like treating the symptom. But then I'm not the one that has to figure out a solution to this mess.
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Well, let's be honest. If they decided to make some of the scion outfits unisex... what you would really end up with is some outfits as "M/F" and some as "F only".

    On the one hand, I can understand the complaint. On the other, simply going "we'll add some male genderlocks too" seems a bit like treating the symptom. But then I'm not the one that has to figure out a solution to this mess.
    Solution to this problem : Open Inventory, select Fantasia, click Use, logout, login, change to Female gender Miqo'te, spend 30 minutes making a cute kitty to play, save the changes, login to game, wear gender locked female Scion outfit....





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    Avi Taro
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    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoWafflez View Post
    Because people wanted more male only gear because females get to wear nearly every item in the game.

    The community asked for this.
    Honestly I'd prefer if everything was unisex. I don't even like most of the female-only sets. :/
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    Adore Mi
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    WOW, the whining never stops, does it? For months, the forum has been subjected to countless threads crying about males having less glamour choices than females. So, SE makes a change and adds a bunch of male only sets for purchase (as well as some female only too), and now you're crying because they're not unisex?
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    "I wanna dress my girl up as Thancred but ew no I shouldn't have to see a male dressed as Minfilia."

    Okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    WOW, the whining never stops, does it? For months, the forum has been subjected to countless threads crying about males having less glamour choices than females. So, SE makes a change and adds a bunch of male only sets for purchase (as well as some female only too), and now you're crying because they're not unisex?
    Because the world is becoming insane... This type of behavior is forcing its way into every aspect of life. Everything and everyone has to be equal in every aspect with no differences and we have to be oh so careful not to hurt peoples feelings... etc etc. Just saw this today and perfectly illustrates the point.. >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM&sns=tw RIP Sanity
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    Tsuga Lem
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiba View Post
    Because the world is becoming insane... This type of behavior is forcing its way into every aspect of life. Everything and everyone has to be equal in every aspect with no differences and we have to be oh so careful not to hurt peoples feelings... etc etc. Just saw this today and perfectly illustrates the point.. >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM&sns=tw RIP Sanity
    Wait, what's wrong with equality and being nice to each other, again?

    On the subject - outside of minfilia's outfit (due to the hairstyle more than anything) I agree that the gender locking is a little odd. I don't remember really seeing it explicitly stated on the mog station that the items were even gender locked at all. Can you buy the female items for a male character and vise versa?
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    Last edited by Tsuga; 11-12-2015 at 08:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarDrake View Post
    Because aside from Minfilia
    Even Minfilia's. If it works on a female lalafell it should work on guys too.
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