About Shuffle,Spread,Royal Road and Draw.

[416to305]

But... not even that, all they did was that Royal Road "Fix"
ugh seriously

I got Spear 5 times in a row today, first time playing since 3.1, then I got 2 Spire in a row, seemed for a bit like they did the opposite! I think that should have been fixed because it's so frustrating. You get Arrow, Balance, Bole, all cards that can mostly be used on anyone and generally at any time (with exceptions of course like dungeon ending etc). Ewer and Spire are both so situational, I don't know how many times they come up and no one needs MP or TP, or at least to the point that it's worth not Royal Roading it. Then Spear, which is fine if you can use it properly, but it's also usually a waste without knowing who has a cooldown they could use. I just wish the cards were more like the first 3, Balance, Arrow, Bole. Basically ones that can be beneficial at all times vs being so situation based like Spire. Shuffle really shouldn't allow the same card, because it's the only thing making most combos useful. I mean draw Spire, no use for it so RR it. Then draw Ewer, shuffle it and get Ewer again. To me that's a waste of a whole minute there, because had I got Balance first for example, I'd have just used it on someone. But instead I wait 30 secs, get Spire, RR it, wait 30 secs, get Ewer shuffle it, get Ewer again, wait whatever it is 10-15 secs without using it for it to fall off, then wait another 30 secs for Draw to come back up, to then hope that 1) The instance isn't over, and 2) The card will still actually be beneficial now.

I think the class works though and any changes are more nice to have, but I just think there's too large of a gap between what the cards do. If people actually needed TP or MP often, then it makes sense, or if you could hold 2 or 3 cards. Almost every time I've used Spire or Ewer on someone, it's never been some life saving move, more just helping them out.

[Venjamin]

That's really the issue, Draw, RR it wait 30 seconds, get Spire, Shuffle it, get Spire again, wait 15 secs or whatever for it to go away, then 30 secs to Draw again.

Just so you know: You can click off the current card, rather than waiting the 15 seconds for it to go away, effectively reducing your current CD to 30 seconds instead of 45 ( 15 to remove + 30 of actual CD ).

Personally, I will admit the randomness sometimes sucks. The consensus is that gameplay should trump the lore, which I wholeheartedly disagree with. Flavor is absolutely the reason I play AST. I am a badass wielder of Sharlayan Astrology. The cards aren't random.

They're fate. =D

Do you really only play AST because of the card mechanics?

[416to305]

Just so you know: You can click off the current card, rather than waiting the 15 seconds for it to go away, effectively reducing your current CD to 30 seconds instead of 45 ( 15 to remove + 30 of actual CD ).

Personally, I will admit the randomness sometimes sucks. The consensus is that gameplay should trump the lore, which I wholeheartedly disagree with. Flavor is absolutely the reason I play AST. I am a badass wielder of Sharlayan Astrology. The cards aren't random.

They're fate. =D

Do you really only play AST because of the card mechanics?

I play on PS4 so don't think I can do that as clicking it with the hotbar would use it. You mean click it with the mouse? That would use it too no? At least on my system clicking something on my hotbar with the mouse uses it, unless you mean clicking it off from your status area where it shows buffs. Can't remember if appears there or not, but not a huge deal. I don't play AST for the cards, I play it for Collective Unconscious haha. Not really, but sort of. Got my AST to 56 and didn't really like it so kept playing WHM. Was in Alex one time and used to think I was so cool popping Assize after everyone stacks on A1, but then one time an AST popped CU and I was like WHAT IS THAT! It looks so bad ass! So tried AST again, and it just happened to be after 3.07 where they made all the great improvements. So have been playing it ever since. I find the cards are just fun as filler, as many times even if you DPS, WHM still gets a bit boring now. Or rather I'm just used to all the abilities, so changed it up. I just disagree with Shuffle pulling the same card. My logic is it's a level 45 ability you get, the same as any other class gets a great ability there (I mean WHM gets Holy!) so to USE that ability and get the same card, basically means you wasted the ability. You don't pop Collective Unconscious, or Assize and only have it work sometimes. I feel like it's pretty similar, Shuffle has one use, and that's to get another card. There's no reason someone would ever want to use it for the same card. So to get the same one to me feels like a waste of a cool down.

PS SE PLEASE FIX THESE STUPID FORUMS. 1000 limit is so ridiculous having to post, edit and then post the rest. Like honestly it's 2015, I think this is the only forum I've ever seen that has a character limit on it, and I use a LOT of forums.

[SkyBane001]

I play on PS4 so don't think I can do that as clicking it with the hotbar would use it. You mean click it with the mouse? That would use it too no? At least on my system clicking something on my hotbar with the mouse uses it, unless you mean clicking it off from your status area where it shows buffs.

Press the touchpad until you reach your buff bar, then use the dpad to select the drawn card buff, and press X. The card will drop without being used and the CD on draw will restart.

[Venjamin]

Press the touchpad until you reach your buff bar, then use the dpad to select the drawn card buff, and press X. The card will drop without being used and the CD on draw will restart.

Yikes, that's ugly. I forget that PS4 is a thing sometimes. My mistake.

[SkyBane001]

Yikes, that's ugly. I forget that PS4 is a thing sometimes. My mistake.

It's uglier to type out than in practice. Each side of the touch pad when pressed like a button will cycle through your UI elements in opposite directions. So if you use it to cycle to your buff bar, then cycle through the buffs with the dpad. Hitting X on any of those buffs will cancel them.

This assumes you have the touchpad mouse turned off, of course (I do, as it can really screw with your ability usage having it pop up if you accidently nudge the pad)

[416to305]

Awesome thanks, yeah I didn't realize I could use the d-pad to select an actual buff from the bar, good to know thanks!