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  1. #511
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    Malicewolf's Avatar
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    Fohl Hakuko
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    Goblin
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Got Keeper of the Lake. Went in with a friend who is a dragoon. A bard and scholar join us. Looking at the set up, things don't look to bad. Both are geared just fine. I do the first pull and pull both mobs at the start thinking we should breeze through this dungeon. I. Was. Wrong. After pulling the first 2 mobs, I notice my hp was very low within about 10 seconds and I'm sitting here thinking, where's my heals? Get down to couple hundred hp. Still no heals. I had already popped some defense CD's... should I pop more? I die while thinking about it. First thoughts, maybe I pulled too fast and the healer wasn't ready. I apologize after we wipe. Healer said sorry as well as he wasn't ready. Ok, no big deal. Get to first boss. Going through it, we're about 1/2 through and things were going fine in my head. I kept all the aggro from the boss and the adds. Then I realize my hp is down in the hundreds again. I look and see the healer is dead... wtf. Nothing was attacking him... We wipe. I'm confused because I have no clue what could of killed the healer (and his fairy). He apparently got blown up by a cannister. We do it again and pull through. Ok, it's fine.

    Next up, the imperial mobs. Shouldn't be a big deal. Pull all the imperials (only 8 enemies...) and group them up. Dragoon and Bard are doing their thing and laying down some good AoE on top of them while I keep them aggro'd and in a tight group. My hp is getting low though and I even have to pop hallow ground. Look and healer's dead again... My friend said he was standing behind me (out of my line of sight so I couldn't see him) and taking all the AoE's to the face and didn't move. We wipe again... We killed 4 of the imperials, but the 2 colossus were still up with a few imperials. Decide to only attack as little as I can since the healer is obviously not up to par and I made sure now to keep an eye on where he was standing to try to avoid getting him hit by AoE's. We get to the 2nd boss. Going through it, my hp is down in the hundreds again about 1/2 way in. I look and see the healer is dead... we wipe. We all talk a bit and go for it again. We seem to all understand the game plan. Go in again. We wipe again... This time, i see EXACTLY why we wiped. The healer never moved from his original spot. You know how that boss turns parts of the floor into burning lava pits? Yea... He sat in them. Just taking damage and not even healing himself. We tell him he needs to move out of the AoE and we get through on the 3rd try. We're about 30 minutes into the dungeon now. Ok, we continue pushing through.


    We get through and now we're at the spot with all the little dragons and drakes. You know, that place where random AoE's aim at you... (I'm sure you can imagine what happens next!). Soooo, once again, the healer stood in the AoE's that the airship launches at you. At this point, the rest of us are trying to be nice, but telling him that he REALLY needs to get out of the AoE's. He still ends up taking a few, but he lives and we get through. We're finally at Midgardsormr. Thank god (or so i thought). Start wailing away at Midgardsormr's face. He raises the 1st dragon. About 1/2 hp on the 1st dragon and what do you know. The healer's dead. I bet I know what happened (hint: it has to do with AoE's). We wipe of course (because we're not even past half hp on the 1st damn dragon). We're trying to give advice to the healer. Told him to just follow the Bard around wherever he goes. Told him to heal himself if needed before me because if the healer goes down, it's a definite wipe. I told him I have some defensive CD's and I could survive an extra second for him to avoid the AoE and if really needed, hallow ground to be invincible for a few seconds. We go in again. We wipe. We took down the 1st dragon this time though, but only got about 1/2 hp down on the 2nd. We've now been in the dungeon for 40 minutes... Now we're all pretty fed up. Healer says he feels like he's got the handle on things now. Ok, we're masochists. We'll do another go with this healer. This time, the bard makes a mistake. Bard dies and healer tries to res him while my hp is about 1000. Bard has to tell healer to stop and heal us and keep the party alive and get him when there's more opportunity (thank you bard). We get through the 1st dragon and we're slaming away at the big dragon face. 2nd dragon is getting up. Healer is finally getting the bard up (without swiftcast). Bard gets up. 2nd dragon apparently didn't like that... he turns and hits him with an aoe almost immediately after he's res'd. I honestly laughed at this part. It was horrible and unfortunate timing. Healer goes down before we can kill of the 2nd dragon though.

    We're all fuming at this point. We've been doing this dungeon for nearly an hour now. We say sorry to the poor fella and do a vote kick (which the bard mistook for an abandon dungeon, so he didn't get kicked immediately). In the meantime, scholar say's he's not normally a healer, but a dps and isn't great at healing (no shit). He's voted out. Btw, he was lvl 51 and had all of the ilvl 90 gear. Not the best, but still, if you got all that, you should know how to do your job somewhat (like avoid AoE's). New healer comes in within a few seconds. We go into the fight and kill it in a few min. Went without too much issue aside from the Bard dying once (but was promptly res'd).

    So that's the story of the longest and most painful dungeon i've been in to date.
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    Last edited by Malicewolf; 11-09-2015 at 05:48 PM.

  2. #512
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Rolled only my second run against Garuda Extreme and half the group basically dicked around most of the fight. They refused to separate Chirada and Suparna, which wiped us, then kept circling them around, which caused another wipe. Third time we finally managed, though the tank and healer (the two problems) got a bunch of us killed for either having no idea of the fight mechanics or just not caring.

    Ironically, my initial run was with almost an entirely new group. And through we wiped, they adapted much better than the supposed 60s.
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  3. #513
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    Meimi_chan's Avatar
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    Lele Santoix
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Malicewolf View Post
    Btw, he was lvl 51 and had all of the ilvl 90 gear. Not the best, but still, if you got all that, you should know how to do your job somewhat (like avoid AoE's).
    It's in my understanding that right now, the level 50 quests leading up to HW gives you blue gear (I think up to ilvl100-110) and exp.
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    Last edited by Meimi_chan; 11-09-2015 at 06:28 PM.

  4. #514
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meimi_chan View Post
    It's in my understanding that right now, the level 50 quests leading up to HW gives you blue gear (I think up to ilvl100-110) and exp.
    Honestly, by then, I almost want to nudge people to actually look at the market board. You can get much better gear for a decent price (or even a steal, if you're lucky) even if it's not the "cool" stuff.
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  5. #515
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    Sohee Kim
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 91
    A little while after Heavensward came out. I was leveling my AST in Sohm Al. Everything was going quite well up until we got to the final boss. Something went wrong and we wiped, not a problem. We proceed to head back to the boss and one of the DPS had to do a quick afk for something. Waited for 30 seconds and then the tank starts the fight while the DPS was still afk. He gets locked out, we wipe again and then the tank suddenly starts to behave like a child and halting the entire dungeon and demanding that we kick him. So for the next 10 to 15 minutes we fought with the tank by telling him to simply leave if he wanted to go that badly. Eventually we just kicked him followed by a report. In the time we spent fighting that tank, we could have just simply killed the boss and been out of the dungeon.
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  6. #516
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    NanaHakuuchi's Avatar
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    Nana Hakuuchi
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 80
    I think we were in the Aery and everything had been going fairly well, a quiet group but we made smooth progress so no complaints. Then we were standing outside of the final boss gate and the tank and the other dps suddenly started having a fight - using only emotes.

    Not a word was exchanged in the chat. It was all "X slaps Y", "Y shakes his fist at X" for several minutes. Myself and the healer just standing there trying to figure out what was going on. Then they made up (still through emotes) and we went in and cleared it. I left none the wiser.
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  7. #517
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    Aru Tirauland
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    Shiva
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Tanks not tanking in A2N. It was my first time healing there, and my co-healer was a friend of mine, also having his debut as healer there.

    We ended up tanking.
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  8. #518
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    Malicewolf's Avatar
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    Fohl Hakuko
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    Goblin
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Meimi_chan View Post
    It's in my understanding that right now, the level 50 quests leading up to HW gives you blue gear (I think up to ilvl100-110) and exp.
    Yea, you do. But that wasn't really the point I was trying to make. Although the gear is, meh, if you have a level 51 anything, I don't think you can really get by saying, "sorry, I'm new at this class"
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  9. #519
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    Lele Santoix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malicewolf View Post
    Yea, you do. But that wasn't really the point I was trying to make. Although the gear is, meh, if you have a level 51 anything, I don't think you can really get by saying, "sorry, I'm new at this class"
    Yeah, I know that, I expressed myself wrong, I just wanted to point out that a lot of the times gear =/= skill. I saw that a lot when T13 was the big raid...

    And I agree that by level 51, a player must know the basics of the class they are playing.

    About the above, I once had the pleasure to meet a BLM that used only fire1, blizz1 and transponse in Shom Al (level 53 dungeon). When asked to aoe? Used freeze.
    So..
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    Last edited by Meimi_chan; 11-09-2015 at 11:30 PM.

  10. #520
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meimi_chan View Post
    Yeah, I know that, I expressed myself wrong, I just wanted to point out that a lot of the times gear =/= skill. I saw that a lot when T13 was the big raid...

    And I agree that by level 51 someone must know the basics of the class they are playing.
    You would be surprised, Sometimes i think people stole an account or is playing someone elses, the amount of tanks i see tanking 1 mob while the rest are chasing the healer is staggering. I even had the pleasure of watching a ninja and dragoon fight mobs without ever using a single debuff. the enemies just went from full to 0, slowly with nothing ever being on them.
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