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    Quote Originally Posted by Delily View Post
    You have not given anyone facts. You have claimed that the Mog Shop is, "bad for the game". Do you have any evidence to back this up? Do you have subscription growth rates before and after it was introduced? Do you have responses from people who stop playing citing the cash shop as the primary reason? No, I bet you don't.
    Do you have any evidence to back up that it's good for us? I don't think you have seen me post saying that it's the reason people quit lol. But ofc i can tell you that it's also not a reason to make you stay or make the game more attractive for new players.
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I find it funny how people get so upset over glorified pixels that has absolutely no value or meaning.
    The optional items are like optional items you can pick up at the store when shopping. You sure as hell don't need it, but you might want it anyways and have to pay extra to get it.
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    Delmania Shadowstar
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    Diabolos
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rose-Wild View Post
    Do you have any evidence to back up that it's good for us? I don't think you have seen me post saying that it's the reason people quit lol. But ofc i can tell you that it's also not a reason to make you stay or make the game more attractive for new players.
    Perception bias followed by exaggeration. Subs increased with the released of Heavensward. They may be slightly down due the 5 month gap between 3.0 and 3.1, but by all accounts the game is doing well enough to keep going. I think you vastly overestimate how many people are turned away by the cash shop. I don't think I've seen a single post in any forum where someone cited the Mog Shop was enough of an irritant to quit the game. The usual reasons are the requirement to complete the entire ARR storyline before playing HW, and the lull we've had in content.
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    Ceyl Fukuro
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose-Wild View Post
    Do you have any evidence to back up that it's good for us? I don't think you have seen me post saying that it's the reason people quit lol. But ofc i can tell you that it's also not a reason to make you stay or make the game more attractive for new players.
    I mean, you're the one who created the thread whining about it, stating it was bad for the game. You should provide the data instead. Delily didn't even say "it's good for the game", so he's not making any assumptions based on his own opinion. If people state stuff, they should back it up with some data. Otherwise, that would lead me to think:

    Quote Originally Posted by StriderShinryu View Post
    This thread, however, just comes across as "I want Odin's mount really bad but don't want to pay for it!"
    That she's right.
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    Rei Akizuki
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    I get why they added a cash shop and it's not going anywhere. But if nothing else, I can at least appreciate they haven't gone too crazy with it. Outside of old holiday things, they've been pretty restrained with how much and how often they add unique things to it.
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