Bard - they broke my job

[Cirdan-Faust]

What is your recommendation for WM? Honestly it's fine, minus the poor animations that come along with it. If they wanted to make it more comparable to Machinist, they could increase the proc chance of Straighter Shot and lower Straight Shot's potency by 10, otherwise Bard is fine where it is, both mechanically and dps wise.

That is exactly the problem with Minuet, it shouldn't be comparable to machinist. They are different classes. Wanderer's Minuet should buff your songs to make BRD strategy more about weaving songs. Also, more songs obviously. Repurpose Warden's Paeon.

[RiceisNice]

That is exactly the problem with Minuet, it shouldn't be comparable to machinist. They are different classes. Wanderer's Minuet should buff your songs to make BRD strategy more about weaving songs. Also, more songs obviously. Repurpose Warden's Paeon.

More or less this. They should be comparable in the role they fill, but not how they play. This is the case for the tanks, melee and especially the casters. There's absolutely no reason for them to make WM/GB functionally the same to each other considering that one is an entirely new job behind an expansion's worth of development other than to extremely homogenize how they play. I don't want to play a reskinned BRD with different animations, especially not when it's passed off as a new job.

Give one of them WM/GB, keep other vanilla, or even make it give different effects so they at least feel different. The novelty of an "attachment" from GB is gone when they're just gonna give it to BRD as well. But I'm digressing now. At least it's a step in the right direction in making BRD more coherent. I'd still like for them to de-homogenize their gameplay, sooner rather than later (4.0). Or at least a ranged physical job that plays like a physical job in the traditional sense (IE, having auto attacks and not cast times)

[SlyRoyale]

That is exactly the problem with Minuet, it shouldn't be comparable to machinist. They are different classes. Wanderer's Minuet should buff your songs to make BRD strategy more about weaving songs. Also, more songs obviously. Repurpose Warden's Paeon.

To make it fit with the theme of a minuet, any song played while the Wanderer's Minuet is active should have its MP cost reduced to slow down MP consumption. Either that, or have it also reduce the cost of certain actions (spells during Mage's Ballad, and weaponskills during Army's Paeon). Foe Requiem's MP drain could be slowed down with the ability active. Make it so that it could only be activated when singing a song and have it deactivate when a song is no longer being sung, and that might make for an interesting change for the ability and the job. The Warden's Paean would also be better off as an instant oGCD with a 90s recast.

Although, if the current Wanderer's Minuet is changed to affect songs, I wonder how much it would affect BRD DPS? I would assume that all skills that required you to have the ability active would no longer have that requirement, and auto-attacks would return on top of having Empyreal Arrow and Iron Jaws.

[RiceisNice]

To make it fit with the theme of a minuet, any song played while the Wanderer's Minuet is active should have its MP cost reduced to slow down MP consumption.

It could be augmenting songs at the cost of TP, with BRD getting more skills oriented to TP management, or use it to turn it into a single target buff for a set duration with a flat mana cost. Anything really to make it not Gauss Barrel. Minuet doesn't really do much to add anything to BRD's gameplay from 2.0 other than arbitiarly locking Empryeal arrow and Ironjaws behind it.