Are you seriously THAT lost SE?

[Jican]

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Absolute garbage. Although, it is still preliminary and they haven't yet said what they're going to do about the change in how tank dps is calculated yet, so there's always a chance Pld won't be completely stiffed this patch.

[RecklessLion]

I agree with SE for the most part. If anything add damage to PLD flash only and increase emnity. Besides that don't raise dps. That's the dumbest and unbalanced thing you can ever do. 2 other classes you can play if you still want to be a tank. PLD has to have to lowest dps due to its insane mitigation tanking wise. Reason why it's over looked game content doesn't match it. If yall get off rage mode you could see you been typing how much PLD does not match game content. Everyone is making it sound like PLD is the worse tank ever but in the 2.0 series when I came in they're were considered the greatest thing walking......new content now they're garbage? Some contradiction going on here and it's not SE. Just want your favorite class to be op from what I'm reading honestly.

[Pinkie_Pie]

I agree with SE for the most part. If anything add damage to PLD flash only and increase emnity. Besides that don't raise dps. That's the dumbest and unbalanced thing you can ever do. 2 other classes you can play if you still want to be a tank. PLD has to have to lowest dps due to its insane mitigation tanking wise. Reason why it's over looked game content doesn't match it. If yall get off rage mode you could see you been typing how much PLD does not match game content. Everyone is making it sound like PLD is the worse tank ever but in the 2.0 series when I came in they're were considered the greatest thing walking......new content now they're garbage? Some contradiction going on here and it's not SE. Just want your favorite class to be op from what I'm reading honestly.

Warriors have a better mitigation then a paladin, that's saying alot.

[Jican]

Tanks should always be 75% to 85% DPS of a DPS. Otherwise DPS replace tanks as tanks.

If DPS did 3000 damage and tanks only did 1000 damage I would replace the tank with a dps to kill things faster. That is how games work.

Which is why you need to change the meta so that that exact thing doesn't happen. Make the defense and massive pools of HP mean something so that DPS simply CAN'T tank, at all.

[Jican]

Just want your favorite class to be op from what I'm reading honestly.

No, actually, I just want the job I'm using to have a purpose. Instead of designing new content to fit jobs, they should instead fit content around all jobs available. Warrior is a prime example. They have so much utility and dps to boot, why go for anything else? The new content seems to have been made FOR Drk, so let's not even touch that.

I don't want anything to be OP. What I want is balance. I want to be able to wear the gear made for me and not be called a scrub because I don't go full Str. I want to be able to need on gear I can actually use and provide utility to my group. I don't want to be excluded because I don't enjoy the other tank jobs in the game and pld brings nothing to the table. Is that too much to ask to be allowed to enjoy a job?

[MeeYow]

Shield swipe is a tiny minuscule buff in raid content where things can't be pacified, assuming it uses no TP.

TP management likely got nerfed because of the removal of swipe from the GCD, gorings adjustment isn't enough to bring management back up to par let alone buff it. Lol considering shield bash for TP balance. What the hell is that ability still doing on the GCD.

This patch is a net nerf for PLD because of something much more important - they removed the LB penalty for bringing two of be same class.

There is basically no reason not to take double WAR to everything now.


Edit: Anyone else find the current attitude with tank balance sadly similar to the attitude during the 1.0 beta.

As per always it would be nice if we got some kind of interaction from the community team, so disappointing checking he dev tracker every day to see nothing but replies on fluff content.

[Xenosan]

when the patch note states that Shield Swipe is changed into an Ability (instead of a Weaponskill), that means it will not have a TP cost.

IE Brutal Swing, Reprisal, Low Blow. They're abilities, not Weaponskills. No TP cost.

[Kerrigen]

This patch is a net nerf for PLD because of something much more important - they removed the LB penalty for bringing two of be same class.
There is basically no reason not to take double WAR to everything now.

Dungeons and trials accessible solo via the Duty Finder:
The Limit Break Gauge will no longer fill more slowly when multiple members of the same class/job are in the party

it's only for DF stuff, not high-end content. It's actually a fine change.

[RecklessLion]

Warriors have a better mitigation then a paladin, that's saying alot.

Explain how if they did then why was PLD choice of the year last 2.0 till now? Again the only mitigation warriors received in 3.0. Raw intuition, heal buff on Defiance, and equilibrium. The CD timers are still the same for main defensive cd. So in other words we was wrong for an entire series??? Meh I don't think so.

[Freyyy]

Explain how if they did then why was PLD choice of the year last 2.0 till now? Again the only mitigation warriors received in 3.0. Raw intuition, heal buff on Defiance, and equilibrium. The CD timers are still the same for main defensive cd. So in other words we was wrong for an entire series??? Meh I don't think so.

WARs mitigation was on par with PLD's since 2.1. Players just took a pretty long time to realize it, but for example, I was personally MTing T13 as a WAR and my healers were saying that it was easier to manage than a PLD because I was able to IB every single flare breath while still also having it for every tank busters, where the PLD was just taking them naked and keeping all of its mitigation for Flattens and Akh Morns. WAR didn't get much more mitigation from HW, but didn't need it at all anyway.