A quick PLD VS DRK DPS check.

[Syzygian]

snip.

Lmao.

Excuse me for using what jobs are capable of at their best as a yardstick.

[Ashkendor]

Who cares what 5 dark knights people can do? There are 4 million people playing the game and i'm sure the four guilds that actually clear Savage... did you actually see how abysmally low the clear rate is? Nobody cares about savage because its stupid. Your throwing your face at a DPS check! *gulfclap!* Any sane person will just wait for it to be nerfed or not do it.

There aren't four million people currently playing the game. There's four million accounts. As far as the clear rates go, that number gets thrown around and taped onto all sorts of stupid arguments that it doesn't really apply to. It's not an accurate depiction of how many people are doing the content. Plenty of groups are actively working on Savage. Yes the clear rate is low, but you can't just completely discount the portion of the community that is actively engaging in the content but simply haven't gotten the clear yet. If you aren't interested in it, great. That's your decision. I have to wonder why you continue to try to discuss it though.

For example, the reason Blizzard won't buff Arthas, is because one Korean player is just absolutely AMAZING with him. He is the entire reason they won't buff him, isn't that a bit silly? That is your argument.

No, you just see it this way because your argument is "Hey, lots of people are shitty at this so it needs a buff."

[CGMidlander]

Who cares what 5 dark knights people can do? There are 4 million people playing the game and i'm sure the four guilds that actually clear Savage... did you actually see how abysmally low the clear rate is? Nobody cares about savage because its stupid. Your throwing your face at a DPS check! *gulfclap!* Any sane person will just wait for it to be nerfed or not do it.

For example, the reason Blizzard won't buff Arthas, is because one Korean player is just absolutely AMAZING with him. He is the entire reason they won't buff him, isn't that a bit silly? That is your argument.

Please,

[SpookyGhost]

A gritless mt drk can and will out dps an ot deliverance war under the right circumstances. I can show you my very own raid parses if you'd like.

Not saying you're wrong because I don't know the exact numbers myself, but something to keep in mind is your WAR might be worse than he could be.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

There aren't four million people currently playing the game. There's four million accounts. As far as the clear rates go, that number gets thrown around and taped onto all sorts of stupid arguments that it doesn't really apply to. It's not an accurate depiction of how many people are doing the content. Plenty of groups are actively working on Savage. Yes the clear rate is low, but you can't just completely discount the portion of the community that is actively engaging in the content but simply haven't gotten the clear yet. If you aren't interested in it, great. That's your decision. I have to wonder why you continue to try to discuss it though.



No, you just see it this way because your argument is "Hey, lots of people are shitty at this so it needs a buff."

All 0.12% of that "community". The rates recently released people actually attempting "doing" it were abysmally low.

Not saying you're wrong because I don't know the exact numbers myself, but something to keep in mind is your WAR might be worse than he could be.

Probably the case, Warrior is much harder to play then DRK.

[Syzygian]

Not saying you're wrong because I don't know the exact numbers myself, but something to keep in mind is your WAR might be worse than he could be.

I cant figure out whether i should be offended or my war. I will post numbers later since apparently if im playing optimally it means my war bro is bad.

[Exodus_Kenpachi]

Not saying you're wrong because I don't know the exact numbers myself, but something to keep in mind is your WAR might be worse than he could be.

It is widely known (at least on Gilgamesh) that DrK gritless MT out DPS a WAR in OT role.

[SpookyGhost]

I cant figure out whether i should be offended or my war. I will post numbers later since apparently if im playing optimally it means my war bro is bad.

I mean I could make the same claim, saying WAR outparses DRK, then post a parse where the DRK is putting out suboptimal numbers. I'm not saying your WAR is necessarily bad, but he could be, and that being a possibility makes your statement require... y'know, evidence.

[Syzygian]

first 2 phases:

Me: 862.0
WAR: 777.1

phase 1 only:

Me: 966.4
WAR: 904.5

first 30 seconds (burst):

Me: 1050.4
WAR: 1017.6

Peak:

Me: 1454.4
WAR: 1862.4

evidence: recent A3S progression- http://www.fflogs.com/reports/LQYKhTwHf4yA7D6c#fight=12

Neither of us use pots as we've been meeting checks without them. He has better left side gear than I, but he has to wear a fending piece to make the HP check whereas I am full slaying+melds, we're about even in stats.

ALSO:

It is widely known (at least on Gilgamesh) that DrK gritless MT out DPS a WAR in OT role.

When this guy and myself are in agreement its usually a fact.

*drops mic* - *walks away*

[Freyyy]

When this guy and myself are in agreement its usually a fact.

I'm in agreement with this too, already argued too much about this fact. This Talathion guy should be ignored everytime he posts in the tank section.