Savage Clear rate being lower the Devs expected, good or a bad thing?

[RiceisNice]

So, then what is a better solution? The current meta will destroy this game's raiding community so something has to change. It really does not matter, they said they will not be using the same difficulty division for 3.2. We are probably going to get normal coil difficulty level back. So, you're right, our conversation is done.



I don't understand the distinction you are making, if you agree, disagree or are just commenting. I think coil without the echo was geared towards the general raiding population. I agree coil with echo was more for the casual crowd and that nerfing savage alex or SCOB seems to directly contradict the idea of savage.

Mostly on the commenting since I'm not too caught up on whose on what side of the argument. My stance on the matter is that they should have content that appeals to the general raiding population (going by your description) is utmost importance since they make up for a good chunk of the community. The casual crowd would still be able to attempt said content and might take a step up, but the alternative of waiting until it gets nerfed is also there (not to mention this is also retroactive by the time content comes out due to eso gear and the like). On top of that, you usally have content like airship exploration and the 24-mans to fill that casual niche anyway on top of the inevitable nerfs to normal mode. Savage should still cater to the high-end, and like you agree, nerfing this would contradict the whole point of it.

From what I'm seeing, velhart wants the the two difficulties to initially appeal to the hardcores and the general raiders, while the casuals would eventually seep into the older content (which was formerly for the general raiders) and savage would stay as is. It's the model that they had used for coils (minus savage on FCoB, but SCoB was still there), and for the most part it worked (at least, better than the mess we have now). It might just be misinterpretation or different impressions, but I think he's taking your comment in the wrong context.