Wrath: Changing Parry Rate to Life Steal

[Kuukii]

So we all know that parry is useless and it's even more useless to Warriors thanks to Raw Intuition. I feel that having a parry rate increase on wrath is a waste and instead should be replaced with life steal. I say 2% or 3% for each wrath.
Any opinions on this? Too strong or to weak or do you think some other stat should be on wrath other than parry?

[ItaruKarin]

Parry is not useless, just not good. It's still an overall damage reduction... And warrior really doesn't need a buff right now.

[AniCelestine]

And warrior really doesn't need a buff right now.

Well, I'm not sure how it would be a buff since only time you're in defiance is for a tank buster to get IB up so overall the wrath stack bonus stats are quite unused. Deliverance is the new tank stance, no?

[Exodus_Kenpachi]

Parry is not useless

No, it is useless. Overhealing is a thing. If you don't understand the correlation then that is your problem.

Also WAR always needs more buffs.

#BufftheMONSTER2015

[Syzygian]

Parry, like it or not, mitigates tens of thousands of damage in a fight with consistent physical damage, albeit unreliably. If your healers are overhealing all that... yeahhh.... =/

[Freyyy]

Parry, like it or not, mitigates tens of thousands of damage in a fight with consistent physical damage, albeit unreliably. If your healers are overhealing all that... yeahhh.... =/

All incoming damage on the tank as well as on the raid are scripted in this game, this means that healers are preparing and pre-casting their heals depending on what damage are incoming. A tank parrying an attack means that RNG decided that he took 20% less damage than what he should have, but healers couldn't pre-emptively assume that the tank was gonna parry. So they prepare a heal considering that the tank doesn't parry, which ends up in overhealing because he took less damage than expected. It doesn't hurt, but it is useless. Parry is completely useless. It's just nice when it happens during "oh sh*t" moments where something went bad, or when you're a DRK and you get to apply Reprisal or a Low Blow procs. Still, it's not worth investing on it even for a DRK.

[Syzygian]

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I wasn't saying you should invest in it, however when it happens in such a way as to leave you with a cure's worth of hp missing as opposed to a cure2's worth, a good healer can push the right button and not overheal you. Parry isnt useless, its bad, the argument was that it was useless b/c healers cant manage their gcds properly over the course of sustained A2s-style damage that wittles a tank down slowly and i frankly expect more from a talented healer. Thats all i'm saying.

[Exodus_Kenpachi]

Its funny that we are at a point where we are argueing whether a stat is bad or useless lmfao.

Either way it needs a major change.

[Dante_V]

I wasn't saying you should invest in it, however when it happens in such a way as to leave you with a cure's worth of hp missing as opposed to a cure2's worth, a good healer can push the right button and not overheal you. Parry isnt useless, its bad, the argument was that it was useless b/c healers cant manage their gcds properly over the course of sustained A2s-style damage that wittles a tank down slowly and i frankly expect more from a talented healer. Thats all i'm saying.

Good healers pre cast their heals. This means they know the incoming damage rate and account for 100% of it incoming for survivability and the heal goes out a split second after the attack. Healers shouldn't be waiting around to see how much damage was taken or if there was a parry and choosing between cure 1 or 2. They will start their cast when the boss is "x" amount of time thru theirs so that the heal goes out instantly after the attack. And honestly if the attack necessitates a cure 2 to heal, it will do so regardless of whether or not a parry occurs.

[Syzygian]

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What you are describing ia a hypothetical situation in which a healer is both able and required to top you off after literally every hit you take, with almost no reactionary play, as might be the case on predicable farmed content with people you trust and it is the exception, not the rule.

If you're making the argument that a healer is expected to overheal any and all damage that would have happened any way if passive mitigation was not present (and also assuming your healer has any idea what cooldowns you are popping) thats an argument based on the assumption that your healers are bad.

Think about it. Look at your parser and the total damage mitigated by parrying over the course of one fight, and if a healer's overhealing meets or exceeds that number, i would say thats some pretty insane overhealing.