Consoles are holding this game back (graphically)

[Laraul]

Square released the near-unusable Mac version for full price knowing it was unplayable just to have another revenue stream, why would they ever drop the PS3 version? In ten years the PS3 version of the game will be running at five frames per second, and still they're a chance a few people will buy it to at least try it out.

Where is my hardware anti aliasing Square Enix? We are approaching 2016 and your game only has FXAA.

All methods of AA are a mix of hardware and software. WoW's AA modes have there own potential drawbacks. There is no magic AA method that'll work perfect in all situations. FXAA comes close to achieving SSAA quality w/ almost no performance hit.

[Colorful]

Square released the near-unusable Mac version for full price knowing it was unplayable just to have another revenue stream, why would they ever drop the PS3 version? In ten years the PS3 version of the game will be running at five frames per second, and still they're a chance a few people will buy it to at least try it out.



All methods of AA are a mix of hardware and software. WoW's AA modes have there own potential drawbacks.

The image Sirius linked shows that WoW has both MSAA and SSAA, that forum post was made before they were reimplemented.

[Laraul]

The image Sirius linked shows that WoW has both MSAA and SSAA, that forum post was made before they were reimplemented.

I posted a link to the wrong page in my first edit. I discovered it and corrected it so it now points to here, but I guess I was not fast enough.

[Laraul]

If you look two posts above your own you will see why it matters. Stepping aside from the graphical improvements, we would also get gameplay improvements if the PS3 was dropped. The PS3 is holding back what this game could be capable of.

We would? Like what exactly? I mean they keep adding all types of things to the game? Like The Gold Saucer and Mini Games, additional minions and mounts... new jobs/classes... several additional dungeons, trials, and raids w/ each major update... Exploration missions... do I need to go on?

PC users got a DX11 update remember? It came w/ graphical tweaks specific to the DX11 client, like better reflections, enhanced SSAO capabilities, parallax occlusion, tessellation, etc? So if the PC got those and the consoles versions didn't, then how can you claim that the console versions are limiting the game for you?

[Khanscott]

I ran FFXIV 1.0 on a 5770. Lower settings, but VERY playable. Medium when I figured out how to properly OC things. My PC at the time costed about $550. How is jacking up graphics going to hurt PC again? Or even PS4 if they play around with it?

[ChocoFeru]

We would? Like what exactly? I mean they keep adding all types of things to the game? Like The Gold Saucer and Mini Games, additional minions and mounts... new jobs/classes... several additional dungeons, trials, and raids w/ each major update... Exploration missions... do I need to go on?

PC users got a DX11 update remember? It came w/ graphical tweaks specific to the DX11 client, like better reflections, enhanced SSAO capabilities, parallax occlusion, tessellation, etc? So if the PC got those and the consoles versions didn't, then how can you claim that the console versions are limiting the game for you?

PS3 can't hold Add-ons, increased inventory space, huge maps, more NPCs on screen etc... This kind of stuff affects PS4 and PC because every player should have the same possibilities.
PS3 is holding back this game. I'm glad 3.0 will be the last expansion for that system, so FFXIV can get more improvements.

[Avin00]

I do agree that the PS3 is probably holding up some things and imposing limitations that would otherwise not exist for either PC or PS4 version. But in terms of blocking new content I don't think it's the biggest slowdown. In fact due to the PC's nature I would guess it is the bigger problem of the three platforms. before I get the PC master Race hating on me I am a game dev and I have made games for consoles and PC and the consoles are much easier to deal with from a test perspective. PC's by their nature have an unknown hardware element when you are developing for them which causes your test time to quadruple at least. With a console the hardware is known and thus you don't have this extra consideration, what this means is that for every new piece of content for FFXIV, if good development practices are in place, that test far outweighs development time and thus slows down new content from being released which is what I expect actually held up the release of 3.1 in the first place.

[Gilraen]

PS3 can't hold Add-ons, increased inventory space, huge maps, more NPCs on screen etc... This kind of stuff affects PS4 and PC because every player should have the same possibilities.
PS3 is holding back this game. I'm glad 3.0 will be the last expansion for that system, so FFXIV can get more improvements.

They said the same thing about XI and the PS2, how storage couldn't be expanded and was holding the game back. When I joined you had mog house, mog safe and personal inventory. When I left there was... 6-7 different ways to store items. This is the PS2, far inferior to the PS3 and any PC then and now. People just love the taste of shoes. Graphics has nothing to do with the version interactions. There already are disparities, but Square is doing nothing about bridging them. The only thing the consoles are limiting is UI.

[Zeonx]

Graphics arent everything.

I rather have a 2D suikoden game like suikoden 2 and not the 3D HD suikoden game.

it doesn't change the gameplay, cause I sure in the hell didn't think of graphics being better back then, I was playing for fun.

[raymon]

PS3 can't hold Add-ons, increased inventory space, huge maps, more NPCs on screen etc... This kind of stuff affects PS4 and PC because every player should have the same possibilities.
PS3 is holding back this game. I'm glad 3.0 will be the last expansion for that system, so FFXIV can get more improvements.

i agree with everything with most of this, but not the inventory space. i recall being told inventory was a server thing, being that all out stuff is saved on their server. being that its a server thing i don't see the PS3 holding it back