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    Cynric Caliburn
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    Already did something similar to this as both DRK and WAR, the difference is that with these 2 you can do it while dealing damage, so Clemency is still the same shite.
    You yourself might have survived on those jobs, but you couldn't have healed the other party members. That's the point of this post I would assume. Yeah we can survive fine by ourselves but we can't help the group survive in the same way a Paladin can. I mean realistically that might not matter, but utility is still utility.
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    Matthias Gendrin
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Cynric View Post
    You yourself might have survived on those jobs, but you couldn't have healed the other party members. That's the point of this post I would assume. Yeah we can survive fine by ourselves but we can't help the group survive in the same way a Paladin can. I mean realistically that might not matter, but utility is still utility.
    This exactly. PLD is unique in that we can directly support and heal the party. It's admittedly sad how little impact this has on the current meta, because I feel like a PLD should be able to enable the group to do more DPS than they'd gain from bringing DRK or WAR (assuming good coordination with the healers). The utility gameplay is awesome, and I would be extremely pleased if SE and Yoshi P directed us that way - it's just not quite good enough to be competitive, at the moment. This anecdote is basically a good glimpse into what could be, and made me appreciate the skill a great deal more than I had before. Between Clemency, Stoneskin, and Cure (lol), a Paladin can output a very substantial amount of healing on the party, and I'd love to see that utilized more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Eh. I've used it in Savage a couple of times to top off myself or a DPS when the healers are already dealing with shit that's going wrong. I've also used it in dungeons, in EX primals, in Alex Normal, etc. I really like the idea of the skill in that it lets you support the party; it's got very specific situations when it's actually useful though, many of which entail a dead healer. Overall it's very clunky to actually use, mostly because it's a 3 second cast on a class that's basically built to stand in front of the boss and let it punch them in the face.
    I've actually encountered surprisingly few instances where attacks actually interrupt the cast. Knockbacks, stuns, silences, and staggers will do it, but most attacks I've found let you keep going through it. And I almost feel like the 3s cast is justifiable because (1) you can use it on other people and (2) it is an extremely potent heal.
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    Last edited by Jpec07; 11-03-2015 at 02:33 AM. Reason: So many replies...
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