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    Serilda's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niqote View Post
    I don't understand why people get so worked up about male and female items considering there is only a handful of them, the bulk is unisex (As it should be, if the bulk wasn't unisex then we would certainly seem to have a design issue).
    More items are constantly being added, everyone is constantly being given more and more and more.

    Why isn't that enough? I understand the love for glamours, I really do. It's one of the things I derive the most pleasure from in an MMO. But having an agenda for the sake of an agenda, rather then asking for something that you personally want (example: May we please have X haircut for X race) seems like... you are purposely letting yourself be insulted.
    While I understand what you're trying to say about trying to keep the tone positive, may I respond to a few points which I feel are rather unfair? It's true that we're getting more and more. But it's also true that as someone with a female character you are getting more and more and more. We could just sit back and be happy for you or we could tell the truth, which is that we're unhappy at being treated like a lower class of subscriber whenever the designers give players with female characters extra goodies for no apparent reason (as people have said before, we'd actually be happier if they just came out and admitted that treating female characters better is deliberate).

    Several people on the forums have been politely asking for fair treatment for the best part of this year. We had one response in April (as did the Japanese side) and since then there has been nothing until now, when a few of us have tried sustaining our complaints instead of letting the threads die out without any sign of change.

    I don't mind if people view me as paranoid but I'm seeing a pretty clear pattern here when the gap is increasing and in only one direction.

    Pre-Patch 2.2: Everyone had the same number of potential equippables
    Patch 2.2 (26th March 2014): Female characters gained 4 extra equippables
    Patch 2.4 (28th October 2014): The number rose to 7
    Patch 2.51 (24th February 2015): The number rose to 11
    Patch 3.0 (19th June 2015): The number rose to 16
    Patch 3.1 (10th November 2015 - as yet unreleased): From the previews alone it looks as though it's rising to at least 25

    Those are the numbers. I'm very, very unhappy with the pattern I'm seeing. I'm also unhappy that on top of apparently having to persuade Square-Enix that we're worthy of fair treatment, we have to collectively defend ourselves from a loud minority of regular posters on the forums themselves. If we seem grumpy at this point it's because every single thread of this type ends up attracting people who bash us for a whole spectrum of bizarre reasons (including questioning our real life sexual identities, of all things) while even politely-worded and reasonable-sounding objections casually dismiss the points that people have been tirelessly making for months. I honestly think a lot of people give up not because they don't want fair treatment, but because they get sick of all of the negative reactions to what is, ultimately, a completely reasonable request for people to make. Fortunately for me I'm a jerk with very thick skin.

    As many people have said over the course of the discussion, the entire point of the complaint is that we do want those glamour items. It's not a matter of principle alone; they're good items (some of the most popular in the game, in fact, according to the last census) and the majority are accessories which have no logical reason for being gender locked to begin with. The Gold Saucer bunny ears have had the longest and most persistent campaign as it's downright ridiculous that they have been gender locked all this time and people want them for specific outfit ideas, and another campaign had multiple artists putting enormous amounts of time and energy into campaigning for fairness with the Thavnairian sets - which was ignored.

    So if it's ok with you, I'm going to keep firmly campaigning until the keys on my keyboard wear out.
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    Last edited by Serilda; 10-31-2015 at 07:57 AM. Reason: I can't spell. Also the 1000 character limit sucks.

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    Terrini's Avatar
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    Terrini Littlebottom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
    Pre-Patch 2.2: Everyone had the same number of potential equippables
    Patch 2.2 (26th March 2014): Female characters gained 4 extra equippables
    Patch 2.4 (28th October 2014): The number rose to 7
    Patch 2.51 (24th February 2015): The number rose to 11
    Patch 3.0 (19th June 2015): The number rose to 16
    Patch 3.1 (10th November 2015 - as yet unreleased): From the previews alone it looks as though it's rising to at least 25
    And this is the brunt of WHY this is an issue. When will it end? Eventually ALL of the glamour gear will favour females, and frankly, that just can not be stood for. Things started great for equality, but they need to return to their roots in this.
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    ~Terra-chan~