Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[AkashiXI]

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^ He said one thing and you kicked him? You're not an asshole, you just have paper thin skin.

[Maikeru]

I'M AN ASSHOLE

Don't worry, if it makes you feel better, I'm an asshole too sometimes. But that's because certain people really know how to grind your gears. .-.

I remember when I was leveling WHM, playing SCH for so long got me used spare some DPS from time to time, depending on the tank. So, I was in Brayflox Longstop, which is quite popular when it comes to horror stories, as a WHM. I had a PLD that was... eh... below average. You know, that one that is allergic to defensive cooldowns. However I was confident I could DPS regardless.

Trash pulls went smooth. First boss time!: The tank pulls, so I determine how much time for DPSing I've got based on how much damage the tank takes. I was in Cleric, helping the DPS then I see the tank dropping below 20%. So I'm like "Yeah, it's time for some healing". I double tap Cleric Stance by accident (Come on, it happened to you too), I see no defensive cds being used and the tank dies. I apologized for the mistake, I told him I was going to spare more healings and it was just an accident, which happens.

The tank started to rant "I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU LET ME DIE. I am not going to tank anymore with a healer that is DPSing." Once again, I told him it was an accident, that I'm learning how to balance the healing/DPS on WHM and it was mostly the first time it ever happened to me as said job. The MNK asked the tank to "grow a pair" and get in the boss' area so we can keep going. The tank sent them to hell and he just decided sit outside, saying he was not going to run this dungeon with us anymore. He started to brag about how good he was. So, I started to get mad and insulted his lack of skill by no using a single cd and told him to get in and stop wasting our time. He went afk right after that. I initiated a vote kick. The DPS didn't care at all, actually they voted "yes" so yeah. We got a new tank and the run went smooth. I was not going to let the party wait for a tank that doesn't want to do anything because of a single mistake.

I understand I've made a mistake, we can argue about me practicing in DF is not a brilliant idea. However being a complete butt and prideful over it, reacting like a child, is not going to make the situation any better. When people make mistakes, I just nod, tell them it's okay and just keep going.

Reminds me of certain tanks I had the chance to meet in DF. That kind of tank that tell the DPS "If you pull, you tank". I'll respect that policy but I don't like that. I play healer most of the time in DF, so yeah... don't ask me to not heal them when they pull, because I'll punch your nipples. I'll not let the DPS die even if they engaged in, because I am slowing the run down by doing so. If you don't want to do your job because of your policy, you don't have the right to ask me to not do mine. And yes, I had some situations like this in DF. People need to keep their pride in their pocket and play the game.

[Eidolon]

^ He said one thing and you kicked him? You're not an asshole, you just have paper thin skin.

Pfffffffffft. You're funny, you know that? :3

I don't tolerate bad players. I especially dont' tolerate bad players that make an ass of themselves by opening their mouth when they do substantially less damage to adds / less damage overall than I do. To me, it's easier to just kick the bigmouthes like this and laugh at them than it is to deal with them for a prolonged period of time.

Thick skin or impatience - well, that's all dependant on who's looking through the glass, isn't it?

[AkashiXI]

Pfffffffffft. You're funny, you know that? :3

I don't tolerate bad players. I especially dont' tolerate bad players that make an ass of themselves by opening their mouth when they do substantially less damage to adds / less damage overall than I do. To me, it's easier to just kick the bigmouthes like this and laugh at them than it is to deal with them for a prolonged period of time.

Thick skin or impatience - well, that's all dependant on who's looking through the glass, isn't it?

Either you're 13 years old or you're living in a snow globe filled with your unrealistic ideas. I'm sure you're the life of party wherever you go.

[Eidolon]

Either you're 13 years old or you're living in a snow globe filled with your unrealistic ideas. I'm sure you're the life of party wherever you go.

A very eloquent, and fact-filled arguement. Yes, I must say, you are the very pinnacle of proving a point! What with throwing out baseless assertions :3 You are very funny, you know that?

I won't drop to such a level as to throw irrelevant insults your way, but feel free to continue thinking they grant any amount of credence to your point. It's quite adorable the way you squirm.

[AkashiXI]

A very eloquent, and fact-filled arguement. Yes, I must say, you are the very pinnacle of proving a point! What with throwing out baseless assertions :3 You are very funny, you know that?

I won't drop to such a level as to throw irrelevant insults your way, but feel free to continue thinking they grant any amount of credence to your point. It's quite adorable the way you squirm.

Nah, you'll just kick me from your group for baseless reasons.

[Ossom]

Ugh... Why do people coddle tanks so much?

A marauder, level 36, can't hold hate off a Bard's auto attacks so I'm tanking the entire time. They won't kick him because "He's new and I don't wanna kick someone that's new." He constantly ignores advice. Ignored requests to not charge into boss rooms until people explained it, ignored requests not to waste LB on Tank LB.

Seriously. This is why we have bad tanks in endgame. People coddle them so much and treat them like a special little snowflake.

Marauder's don't have a tank stance (Nor Butcher's Block IIRC). Trying to hold hate off a Dragoon or a Bard as a Marauder is pretty much impossible. I say this because Dragoon's get their burst rotation first, so they do big numbers early on and Bards are the class of Burst pre 3.0, even post 3.0 Content a good Bard can burst almost as High as a Machinist and Machinist's burst is probably higher than all other classes.

This isn't a bad tank, this is a bad development of the game for early content and its been repeatedly noted that tanks have it hard holding threat on early content.

[Eidolon]

Nah, you'll just kick me from your group for baseless reasons.

Baseless? Nope. Nothing baseless about my reasons for kicking the player. Again:

-> They do less damage than you do to the adds.
-> They do less overall damage than you do.
-> They still decide to open their mouth and try to call you out, because they think they're good.

Plenty of reasons in my book.

[Eidolon]

Marauder's don't have a tank stance (Nor Butcher's Block IIRC). Trying to hold hate off a Dragoon or a Bard as a Marauder is pretty much impossible. I say this because Dragoon's get their burst rotation first, so they do big numbers early on and Bards are the class of Burst pre 3.0, even post 3.0 Content a good Bard can burst almost as High as a Machinist and Machinist's burst is probably higher than all other classes.

This isn't a bad tank, this is a bad development of the game for early content and its been repeatedly noted that tanks have it hard holding threat on early content.

level 36 marauder was the issue. I do mean that quite literally - he was not a Warrior.

Also, Warriors are known for having a VERY easy time holding threat post-30 because of Defiance. Tank stance is rediculously powerful, especially with Warriors and overpower for AoE tanking.

[Ossom]

level 36 marauder was the issue. I do mean that quite literally - he was not a Warrior.

Also, Warriors are known for having a VERY easy time holding threat post-30 because of Defiance. Tank stance is rediculously powerful, especially with Warriors and overpower for AoE tanking.

Yes Warrior's have a easy time holding threat, Marauders do not.

Tank Stance is ridiculously powerful, and so is butcher's block.

As I said, this isn't about a bad Tank, this is about a player who has not been instructed to seek out obtaining their Job Crystal and using Tank stance. Obviously if he just started the game he could be maybe a week or so into the game and therefore does not have someone advising him to seek out the Job Guy in Costa Del Sol.

Honestly, a Dragoon can tank any of the Lv49 and under dungeons anyways, the best thing to do is to advise the Warrior that he would have a hard time holding threat and that after the dungeon he should seek out his Job Crystal in Costa Del Sol. Not get on a forum and give him shit for being new.