Enhanced Materia with spell effects, Phoenix Down and Potions while Fighting

[Amiaze]

They are going to balance items, not Phoenix Down though.

They could just use Phoenix Down as a "Reraise" on the open world - if you die while carrying one, you would get instantly revived. The 'Unique' trait of the item would make it impossible to exploit this, and while not being an extremely needed effect, a lot of people would use it, especially when leveling low-level characters and alts.

Until I involuntarily tested this idea against an Adamantoise I had no business attacking, I thought that this was the case. It would certainly make it easier to level when you're alone (especially when using a DPS class with no Chocobo Companion), and would make hunts a bit more interesting. And of course, make it so that they cannot be used in dungeons.


The only downside I could see to this would be that it would only make the "overworld isn't dangerous enough" problem even worse. With the ability to self-resurrect, even the few mobs/enemies that could really pose a problem to a single player would mean significantly less.

[Nalien]

The only downside I could see to this would be that it would only make the "overworld isn't dangerous enough" problem even worse. With the ability to self-resurrect, even the few mobs/enemies that could really pose a problem to a single player would mean significantly less.

Eh, I can't see it making the open world less dangerous... If you died to open world content, chances are you're not going to get back up and suddenly beat it with Weakness... You'll die, and it'll reset, and if you can still only carry one at a time, it would be a one time thing... Plus, you died, I mean I wouldn't put it past this community, but "I died in the open world! It isn't dangerous enough!" would be a pretty nonsense thing to say... If anything something like this could be an excuse to make things harder... I like it...

[Morningstar1337]

Aside from main stat potions, I look at potions in this game as just a reference to FF tradition.

I see Phoenix Downs similarly, A holdover form the single player games that can only fit in the extremes of "useless" and "You take this or we will kick you form our Static". Unsurprisingly, the devs went with the former.

[KingOfAbyss]

The game breaking balance with Phoenix Downs is compared to the MP cost to revive a target that has fallen. The negatives of falling in combat would be severely reduced to a point where PD's are must haves and not just an option which would cause issues for such an item to hold a huge necessity to raids and such.

True.

-> They can limit their usage like one per fight, or once per instance. It still would give PD something more tangible and a great feeling.

Just like parsers, if it would become a requirement for the party, then it's a no-no of course.

But right now everyone had at least 2 IIRC, so once per instance, everyone could save someone, the last seconds of a fight where everyone dies, and you revive someone so we would kill the boss, for me it's Epic fights ^^

Just something random, but then again, we know how people think >.<

Now it's useless, unless you want to get your achievement for reviving people outside your party.

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Alright then! Make my freaking RAISE on PLD worth a damn! So I could raise someone while fighting!

"Tank" you.

Or give us 'advanced jobs' so I can become a Crusader and then.. Raise people while fighting?

^ Should I create a new thread with that title? I mean the Raise part

[StouterTaru]

SC>Flare>Xether>Flare>Convert>Flare>Transpose>Bliz III>etc. = PVP Node clearer.

At 50 cap? Because at 60 Flare has a minimum MP of around 850.

[Iagainsti]

At 50 cap? Because at 60 Flare has a minimum MP of around 850.

Old 72 man Secure tactic, so yes 50. I only have Blk @52 atm, so I didn't know if it worked as well in Seize. Same time, Flare has been nerfed on multi targets, so even 3 Flares in 12 seconds wouldn't create the healer sweats it used to. XD

[Dante_V]

They are going to balance items, not Phoenix Down though.

They could just use Phoenix Down as a "Reraise" on the open world - if you die while carrying one, you would get instantly revived. The 'Unique' trait of the item would make it impossible to exploit this, and while not being an extremely needed effect, a lot of people would use it, especially when leveling low-level characters and alts.

This is how Phoenix Downs should operate imo. Would also be useful in relic fates and treasure hunts. But it should be strictly for solo open world type stuff.

[Fevelle]

This is how Phoenix Downs should operate imo. Would also be useful in relic fates and treasure hunts. But it should be strictly for solo open world type stuff.

Exactly! No using in dungeons or quest duties.

[Drivont]

The game breaking balance with Phoenix Downs is compared to the MP cost to revive a target that has fallen. The negatives of falling in combat would be severely reduced to a point where PD's are must haves and not just an option which would cause issues for such an item to hold a huge necessity to raids and such.

Make it weaker than a raise, 4-5s cast time, and 3min cooldown, without the immunity buff when rezz'd. Balance!

that way its still viable in an "oh SH-!" moment, but not your go-to, unless the healer is already overtaxed. Just a thought. Please don't eat me alive forums!


:P

[Kallera]

Make it weaker than a raise, 4-5s cast time, and 3min cooldown, without the immunity buff when rezz'd. Balance!

that way its still viable in an "oh SH-!" moment, but not your go-to, unless the healer is already overtaxed. Just a thought. Please don't eat me alive forums!


:P

It does feel like, in a lot of fights, everyone is running for the doors once the two healers keel over...unless there is a smn...and they aren't running themselves.

Healing potions definitely need to be updated. The highest one available now doesn't even cover an auto attack.