"This is my playstyle" is a poor argument for being bad.

[Atmora]

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The thing is even if I just leave they're still wasting my time because of the time I spent in dungeon with them and my leaver penalty. Plus no one is claiming they have to be perfect, they're saying it would be nice if they were at least mediocre.

[Yallaid]

I wouldn't even trust them on AST, they might find it completely pointless to use cards, as well!

ya, lol.

"these cards are just much too complicated to deal with; my only job is to make sure no one dies right? Im completely blameless.."

[Ashkendor]

I guess people like you would call me "bad DPS" because when I play as Monk or Mechanic (both ilvl186) I dont ever use those ridicoules small 5% atk "boost" skills. (I call them: blank skills)
...or those annoying positional atks on monk/drg/nin <,< (why we have that anyway...?)

I also dont have that dragoon aura up for the whole time o_O that aura dont boost anything on stats, and those 4th cambo atks are pretty much weak! Only usefull for those 2 Jump atks. ...wich have same CD as the dragoon aura.

minuet/gauss is only for AoE usefull - very weak against 1 target! Its sad people using that skill totally wrong for 1 target =.=

With that "my own gameplay" I still kick asses around. :P
Never had complains in my over 2100 runs so far since release 2013!

If you know about all of those things and you just refuse to use them then yes you are exactly the type of player this thread is about. Look, I don't normally bring up low DPS with people in DF unless it's actually keeping us from clearing the run. I don't expect everyone to be perfect, but I do expect people to at least freakin try. I get it, some people are new and getting used to skills, other people are undergeared because they're fresh to 60. Flat-out ignoring your skills is just lazy. If I was healing/tanking and the other DPS is either new or similarly bad and that combined with your inept play is keeping us from clearing content, I'd probably either vote kick one of you or leave myself depending on my frustration level. If I was the other DPS, I'd just vote kick because carrying you would give me a backache. You don't kick ass. You watch the other DPS kick it while you sit on your hands in a corner. :/

[Elazu]

I guess people like you would call me "bad DPS" because when I play as Monk or Mechanic (both ilvl186) I dont ever use those ridicoules small 5% atk "boost" skills. (I call them: blank skills)
...or those annoying positional atks on monk/drg/nin <,< (why we have that anyway...?)

I also dont have that dragoon aura up for the whole time o_O that aura dont boost anything on stats, and those 4th cambo atks are pretty much weak! Only usefull for those 2 Jump atks. ...wich have same CD as the dragoon aura.

minuet/gauss is only for AoE usefull - very weak against 1 target! Its sad people using that skill totally wrong for 1 target =.=


With that "my own gameplay" I still kick asses around. :P
Never had complains in my over 2100 runs so far since release 2013!

This must be sarcasm. If it's not, please stop playing dps.

[Callinon]

I don't expect people to be perfect. I don't expect everyone to take their gaming as seriously as I take it. But when you're not even trying to do well, you're just wasting my time and the time of the rest of the party. It's disrespectful to everyone else who then has to make up for your lack of effort.

[Eidolon]

This must be sarcasm. If it's not, please stop playing dps.

I loved how they posted this thinking they're a real bad***, only to get instantly laughed at.

Fail troll or someone just willfully bad?

[Kallera]

I uh, want people to try in expert roulette as well. Would much prefer 15-20 minute runs to 30+ minute ones.

"Ahh! 5 more minutes and I can throw a justified proper fit at the BLM and his ilk!...What! He used the limit break! The NERVE! Those are seconds we'll NEVER get back!"

If we can just control and order around our human players without fail, then we can have a proper mmorpg experience....

Perhaps one day we can require our new players to know alex savage before installing the game. Until then, we'll have to settle for...diversity. /sarcasm

[Jamein]

"Ahh! 5 more minutes and I can throw a justified proper fit at the BLM and his ilk!...What! He used the limit break! The NERVE! Those are seconds we'll NEVER get back!"

If we can just control and order around our human players without fail, then we can have a proper mmorpg experience....

Perhaps one day we can require our new players to know alex savage before installing the game. Until then, we'll have to settle for...diversity. /sarcasm

What is wrong with you, you literally take everything to the extreme like the entire world is out to kill each other. The guy said he would prefer shaving 10/15 minutes off a run and you react like he just said all players who can't pull 1500 DPS should be banned and have their offspring sacrificed to our lord and saviour cthulu.

You offer absolutely nothing to discussions because instead of contributing to the debate you just run straight to the extreme and scream that it will be the end of us all. If you have so little faith in the community/humanity why do you even bother playing a game that forces you to play with others.

Quit being a little drama queen and have a rational discussion and raise your concerns without acting like we're asking for all players to be MLG pro's.

[Waeksyn]

It's clear that those who "play bad" are really only providing a service to the FFXIV community by giving folks the opportunity to come on the forums and complain over, and over, and over about players that aren't as good as their own godly capabilities.

Chill pills for everyone!

[Nestama]

"Ahh! 5 more minutes and I can throw a justified proper fit at the BLM and his ilk!...What! He used the limit break! The NERVE! Those are seconds we'll NEVER get back!"

What? Who cares on who uses the LB (if the melee DPS wasn't going to use it, then what's wrong with a Caster or Ranger using it?). It's when a BLM is just spamming Blizzard (or worse, Scathe or Blizzard II) is when it's a problem. I'm sure you'd be just as annoyed with a healer or tank if they were, say, only spamming Cure (never using Freecure or any of the new abilities they learn on their way to 60) or focusing on only one monster, letting the rest of the mobs gang up on the healer (or mouth off at DPS for doing AoE's... in level 60 content).

If we can just control and order around our human players without fail, then we can have a proper mmorpg experience....

If it meant we could stop them from hindering the party with their Blizzard, Straight Shot, Ruin, Bootshine, Heavy Thrust, etc (or running into walls or getting locked out of fights because Netflix distractions) spam, sure.

Perhaps one day we can require our new players to know alex savage before installing the game. Until then, we'll have to settle for...diversity. /sarcasm

And that's where you blew things completely out of proportion. New players are not bad, especially if they learn what their shiny new abilities can do as they level up (when I was new, I was always excited to see what X ability did when I got it). Bad players are players who choose to be bad in one way or another. One example just spamming one attack for the entire dungeon, another example expecting 3-7 players to do the content for them (noticeable in farming parties).