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  1. #11
    Player
    randysquirrel's Avatar
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    Phoenix Silver
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    Odin
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    Alchemist Lv 60
    "But this is my playstyle, I pays my $15" *runs off edge, last boss neverreap*

    They walk among us
    (7)

  2. #12
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    Adire's Avatar
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    Erin Grey
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    Mateus
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Doudousteve View Post
    Had 2 bards yesterday in nevereap and none of them wanted to use wanderer's minuet. But they sure as hell used foe requiem on every monsters they could see even though we did not have any magical dpsers. I mean, I understand WM isn't their favorite skill right now, but a 50 minutes run in nevereap is never a good thing.

    So yeah, I agree with op.
    Foe was probably for the healer, who should have been dpsing for sure if possible with the bards being that bad.

    Not playing WM was probably because the bards wanted to "stick it to the man", let SE know they don't like it, by screwing their group over while SE will never even know the situation happened, making their efforts or lack thereof for nothing. Which is a subset of bad because plenty of bards are doing fine with WM. If they don't want to use WM, they should learn to play another job. Continuing to play BRD but refusing to use WM is like a BLM refusing to use any Fire skill, bad bad bad.
    (8)
    Last edited by Adire; 10-27-2015 at 02:28 AM.

  3. #13
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    Kallera's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    On the one hand, i don't agree. On the other...

    If I MET an ice mage, or a tank that couldn't hold their aggro, I'd probably just talk to them instead of,ranting on the forums about how individuality is a sham and we must all be and do the same in lockstep.

    If i met a bard that did 1000dps, I'd proabably not notice. Sorry brds.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 10-27-2015 at 03:11 AM.

  4. #14
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    Warlyx's Avatar
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    Warlyx Arada
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Flipside101 View Post
    I'm looking at you undergeared, DPS stanced tanks who think they can hold aggro using taunt, Ice Mages, and 1000 DPS/second BRDs.
    so now bards that do 1000 dps are as bad as ice mages or tanks that are in dps stance all the time, a fresh 60 bard that maybe is even still learning how the rotation works (WM changes the whole rotation), or maybe he feels so undergeared and useless that keeps using TP or MP song so at least bring something to the table.
    (6)

  5. #15
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    Velox's Avatar
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    Sharlayan
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Obvious troll is obvious
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  6. #16
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    Catwho's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Katarh Mest
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    1000 DPS is pretty damn good for a bard who may be popping on ballad occasionally. That's the goal I strive for and only attention during large groups of crunchy mobs.

    Now, a bard doing 500 DPS at 60 clearly never upgraded their gear, and a bard doing 400 isn't even trying.
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  7. #17
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    Eothas's Avatar
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    Xander Wolf
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Meta has nothing to do with being good or not. And before you say anything. I do follow some kind of meta, but not blindly.
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  8. #18
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    Danielle Leclair
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 60
    This whole thread

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  9. #19
    Player
    Kallera's Avatar
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Mateus
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    1000 DPS is pretty damn good for a bard who may be popping on ballad occasionally. That's the goal I strive for and only attention during large groups of crunchy mobs.

    Now, a bard doing 500 DPS at 60 clearly never upgraded their gear, and a bard doing 400 isn't even trying.
    No need to correct him. Well playing bards are truly the bane of the eso running community.
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  10. #20
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    AnaviAnael's Avatar
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    Anavi Anael
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kathyz View Post
    WTH undergeared?, so now you going to have the best gear since you hit 60? i mean dont take me wrong i understand your point but take hate in people undergeared that sometimes can be just ridiculous, And told them to uninstall the game?, someone take your cookies or something?
    I agree and I disagree. I agree that at 60, if you're at the minimum iLV for a dungeon and play well that it's no big deal that you're at minimum iLV. You could be trying to get dungeon gear, it's your first 60, etc. As long as you play decently, most people don't get their panties in a wad. (If they do, they probably have other issues than this game.)

    I disagree with every other situation though. I shouldn't go into Haukke Manor story mode on SMN and have more HP than the tank because they don't want to upgrade their armor.
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