Black Mage sends up a distress Flare!

[WordOnTheWind]

Just give it some time with the new rotations. I made the fatal mistake of coming here to the forums right when Heavensward was new and believing what I read as first reactions from even well respected BLM's everywhere who were up in arms about how the new rotations and movement killed our DPS.

I don't care about single-target. At all. If I wanted to do single-target damage I would have made a Monk. I hate the de-emphasis on AoE, I hate the nerfs to AoE. I hate being forced to single-target. I hate it. It is not fun. At all. I don't care about theoretical damage. I care about having fun and the Enochian Loop isn't fun. It's stressful. It's frustrating. I do not play a game to stress out over frustration. I play a game to have fun. And I can't have fun with what remains of the AoEs if it doesn't accomplish anything worthwhile because then all I do is burden others.

BLM AoE has always felt kinda...choppy?? I wish it worked like our old ST rotation, where maybe every Fire II has like a % chance to proc a freecast Flare.

This could be neat and fun. I like this idea.

[Waliel]

BLM AoE has always felt kinda...choppy?? I wish it worked like our old ST rotation, where maybe every Fire II has like a % chance to proc a freecast Flare. I've found spreading TC procs throughout mobs though is pretty handy, especially with the buff

Spreading TC is only worth it with three or less mobs when you can get few dot ticks. Four mobs is only an increase if you can use your TC during long mana ticks after Transpose, if I'm remembering right.

I don't care about single-target. At all. If I wanted to do single-target damage I would have made a Monk. I hate the de-emphasis on AoE, I hate the nerfs to AoE. I hate being forced to single-target. I hate it. It is not fun. At all. I don't care about theoretical damage. I care about having fun and the Enochian Loop isn't fun. It's stressful. It's frustrating. I do not play a game to stress out over frustration. I play a game to have fun. And I can't have fun with what remains of the AoEs if it doesn't accomplish anything worthwhile because then all I do is burden others.

Flare got a 25% damage nerf for five mobs, and when it's only about half of your AoE anyway, it's not that big of a nerf in normal situations in the end. An extra F2 or two in your average dungeon run. I'm also not sure how you're forced to single-target. BLM AoE is still better at three targets than single.

[Maero]

I actually think both classes (smn and blm) are more or less were they should be. Yes it is not even close now in aoe on smn vs blm but ST damage is rather noticeable. Not as big of a gap as some seem to think though.
I do not think summoner should get a increase to ST damage as it would make blm even less viable no? Those of us who still love blm will stick with it but so many players have switched to smn for various reasons mind you
Summoner in PVP... yes very much OP, lol
And not at all mean't to sound insulting as i do have good intentions out of this but you really just need more experience. 100% Enochian uptime, when to use cooldowns, etc. you will get there, current mechanics are not overly bad

[T0rin]

I don't care about single-target. At all. If I wanted to do single-target damage I would have made a Monk. I hate the de-emphasis on AoE, I hate the nerfs to AoE. I hate being forced to single-target. I hate it. It is not fun. At all. I don't care about theoretical damage. I care about having fun and the Enochian Loop isn't fun. It's stressful. It's frustrating. I do not play a game to stress out over frustration. I play a game to have fun. And I can't have fun with what remains of the AoEs if it doesn't accomplish anything worthwhile because then all I do is burden others.

Sounds like you need to switch classes. Balance changes things and you can either adapt or go whine on the forums. BLM and SMN are in good places in respect to each other, but Savage favors BLM on 3/4 floors. Hopefully the next raid tier offers something to even the playing field a bit.

As is, BLM is the preferred caster class for the content that matters.

[OneWingedSora]

Sounds like you need to switch classes. Balance changes things and you can either adapt or go whine on the forums. BLM and SMN are in good places in respect to each other, but Savage favors BLM on 3/4 floors. Hopefully the next raid tier offers something to even the playing field a bit.

As is, BLM is the preferred caster class for the content that matters.

I would say, Savage favors BLM on 2/4 floors with Alex Savage 1 being perfectly balanced for both jobs. Blackmage in that it can burst higher before the split which is really good for speedruns if you are going for no jumps, etc. and Summoner in that it has higher DPS output after the split and can handle both adds solo(with enough gear) while having the melee stay on the boss full time.

[StouterTaru]

Spreading TC is only worth it with three or less mobs when you can get few dot ticks. Four mobs is only an increase if you can use your TC during long mana ticks after Transpose, if I'm remembering right.

If the pack is going to live long enough for the full 8 ticks, TC procs are still worth doing on 5 mobs. The dps is roughly the same as AoE spam, and you have a chance at a proc while waiting on transpose.

[Malevicton]

Considering that I have mechanics that actively work against me at all times and if it's at all disrupted then my output plummets while others can just do their thing with simplicity and ease, no I would not call that balanced. I would in fact call that quite broken. I hate what my class has become.

Okay, gonna gloss right over the "others can just do their thing with simplicity and ease" for now, but why is enochian relevant in a discussion about aoe? Changing our aoe wouldn't change enochian. :P Kinda feels like you're grasping at straws here.

[WordOnTheWind]

Because it's the focal point of the L60 Black Mage to such a degree that it renders all other options obsolete. Everything you learn as a BM up until that point is rendered worthless, save for "F3 and B3 give you max stacks". The Enochain Loop is just a perfect storm of problems.

1. It changes class focus abruptly. (Single regular damage vs Single burst/AoE burst)
2. It changes class play style abruptly (Hard rotation vs Proc-fishing/Burst recharge)
3. It changes class complexity drastically

As a result, any hypothetical changes have to involve changing Enochian in some manner. Personally I'd like it to actually mesh with what was formerly the capstone of the Black Mage kit, Flare.

[Malevicton]

Enochian is not nearly as bad as you make it sound. All three of your problems are just that it changed the style. That's one problem, and not even a problem.

I enjoy the new rotation quite a bit. And frankly, expansions are supposed to shake up the old rotations. It'd be pretty silly if we were still just spamming f1.

SE changes stuff, people complain about change. Don't change it and people complain that it's not different enough for an expac. There's no winning for devs.

[Waliel]

If the pack is going to live long enough for the full 8 ticks, TC procs are still worth doing on 5 mobs. The dps is roughly the same as AoE spam, and you have a chance at a proc while waiting on transpose.

But one F2 is stronger on four mobs than a full TC, 720 compared to 710 respectively. I'm not seeing how Thunder is a gain on five mobs.