What are the differences between the Echo and having Hydaelyn's Blessing? [Spoilers?]

[Tenkuu]

Is hard to say if the blessing of light acts like just a defence power against darkness or that it does much more than that based on what we have seen.
The first blessing we recieve I would say it acted more like a shield, it could be that this new version of the blessing we gain at the end of 3.0 its even stronger than the last one and could be that acts like a boost like you said, increasing not just our defece but own powers as well.

Well, since the Echo is what protects us against tempering, what else makes us special other than our protection against the Dark? And that protection comes from the Blessing of Light, something that is made pretty clear by the end of Praetorium and the fact that Nabriales mentions the Ascians couldn't attack Rising Stones while we were there.

The blessing has manifested defensively and offensively. It was the blessing that allowed us to survive Ultima as well as Midgardsormr's final attack and it warded our home from Ascian access.

While I don't disagree about the defensive aspect of it, I don't think Midgarsormr had actually tried to attack us yet in Keeper, and I think the Blessing was Hydaelyn's warning to him that we were one of her Chosen.

Going by how the echo is always linked with that meteor shower and it happened that day (the real meteor shower that even Thancred saw) in the crypt, I would have to say most likely so, though it could have been more at the moment when you had triggered the echo within the echo and caused it to awaken in her thus causing the meteor shower >.<

Given that only those who awaken to the Echo see a meteor shower, I don't think Thancred ever saw one? But in the middle of the crypt scene, he does go outside and see a lot of dark clouds. Regarding Minfilia though, if I look at her Tales from the Calamity again, Louisoix specifically calls the power that she awoke to a year before her 18th birthday the Echo, so I guess nothing happened to her that day at the crypt other than being shocked by whatever she saw.

[Frederick22]

Well, since the Echo is what protects us against tempering, what else makes us special other than our protection against the Dark? And that protection comes from the Blessing of Light, something that is made pretty clear by the end of Praetorium and the fact that Nabriales mentions the Ascians couldn't attack Rising Stones while we were there.

Never said that I didnt agree.

I just said that maybe the new version of the blessing of light might have boost our strenght, not just acting as shield against darkness.

Honeslty I have a doubt that the blessing will help us this time with the warriors of darkness. They are a hole new level.

[Morningstar1337]

Speaking of which I wonder if the Warriors of Darkness had their blessings altered soemhow, wither by Louisoux's Flow spell or the Ascians?

[Rannie]

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yeah moose pointed that out with the tales but he does see the physical meteor shower outside the crypt


shown here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oERfGPWUOnQ

it starts about 2minutes and 55 seconds

[Tenkuu]

Never said that I didnt agree.

I just said that maybe the new version of the blessing of light might have boost our strenght, not just acting as shield against darkness.

Honeslty I have a doubt that the blessing will help us this time with the warriors of darkness. They are a hole new level.

I think the Blessing of Light has been what boosts our strength from the beginning tbh. And I doubt that the Blessing wouldn't help against Warriors of Darkness: after all, the only reason we're not vulnerable to the Ascians and other forms of tempering is due to this Blessing, so I would think that it makes us more qualified to fight against similarly enhanced foes. Not to say that the other Scions couldn't help though, and I'd even be disappointed if they didn't.

Speaking of which I wonder if the Warriors of Darkness had their blessings altered soemhow, wither by Louisoux's Flow spell or the Ascians?

Since our Blessing of Light is from Hydaelyn, the Blessing of Darkness would be from Zodiark and unrelated to the Ascians specifically imo. Also, if the Ascians clearly target people with negative emotions, likely Zodiark's Chosen would also be people who had undergone so much negativity in their past that it twisted their personalities.

yeah moose pointed that out with the tales but he does see the physical meteor shower outside the crypt


shown here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oERfGPWUOnQ

it starts about 2minutes and 55 seconds

But that's the actual breaking of the seal when Midgarsormr dies and not just a vision from what I recall, isn't it?

[Frederick22]

I think the Blessing of Light has been what boosts our strength from the beginning tbh. And I doubt that the Blessing wouldn't help against Warriors of Darkness: after all, the only reason we're not vulnerable to the Ascians and other forms of tempering is due to this Blessing, so I would think that it makes us more qualified to fight against similarly enhanced foes. Not to say that the other Scions couldn't help though, and I'd even be disappointed if they didn't.

Yea but we saw the change that the blessing had,i cant think that it was just glamour hahahah. If the aspect of the blessing change andalso become bigger, I cannot ignore the posibility that this new blessing is more stronger.
Remember Nabriales, we didnt had the blessing. Was our own strenght that lets us defeat him.

[Tenkuu]

Yea but we saw the change that the blessing had,i cant think that it was just glamour hahahah. If the aspect of the blessing change andalso become bigger, I cannot ignore the posibility that this new blessing is more stronger.
Remember Nabriales, we didnt had the blessing. Was our own strenght that lets us defeat him.

Actually, about that. If you see both the Blessing of Light and the Echo as aspects of Hydaelyn, then that would explain why the Echo alone would be enough to defeat an Ascian. Aside from their own powers, the Ascians' only advantage over the common man/woman is that they can possess their bodies, and the Echo protects us as much from that as it does from tempering. When sending us off to fight Ifrit again right after the 2.0 endgame, Thancred even makes a comment that having been possessed by Lahabrea made him particularly susceptible to tempering, and lists that as a reason why he can't come with us this time around. So in short, yes, our own strength is greater than most people's, but we have an added protection with the Echo that makes it so the Blessing of Light really does only boost our powers and is not a necessity.

[Frederick22]

Actually, about that. If you see both the Blessing of Light and the Echo as aspects of Hydaelyn, then that would explain why the Echo alone would be enough to defeat an Ascian. Aside from their own powers, the Ascians' only advantage over the common man/woman is that they can possess their bodies, and the Echo protects us as much from that as it does from tempering. When sending us off to fight Ifrit again right after the 2.0 endgame, Thancred even makes a comment that having been possessed by Lahabrea made him particularly susceptible to tempering, and lists that as a reason why he can't come with us this time around. So in short, yes, our own strength is greater than most people's, but we have an added protection with the Echo that makes it so the Blessing of Light really does only boost our powers and is not a necessity.

The echo protect us from tempering, but physical damage is something different.
I'm a bit confuse, didnt you said that the blessing protect us against darkness?

[myahele]

I have a theory that only people who collected a complete set of Crystals of Light can then have the Hydaelyn's Blessing. Prior to that the more we collect the stronger our connection to Hydaelyn becomes.

The echo is capable of doing a lot more than just preventing tempering as we see throughout the game and what the Asciens can do.

So I do believe that the blessing is a tool to prevent Zodiark and his minions from doing stuff to us

It's been mentioned that we need alot of Aether to destroy Asciens, so maybe in the future we can actively tap into Hydaelyn's blessing and use that aether for ourselves?

[Delily]

If you've played through the MSQ, the nature of the Echo continues to be a mystery. I believe it's implied that the last boss of the Aetherochemical Research Facility comes about from the echo. The ability of the echo is essentially to break down the barriers of existence, hence our abliity to see into the past from other people's perspective.

The Blessing of Light seems to protect us from the Ascians, but we also saw when it protected us from the Ultima weapon. I'd say it's primay purpose is to protect people against anything that is connected to Zodiark.