I just want to know, where on Hydalen is the continent of Ivalice?
I just want to know, where on Hydalen is the continent of Ivalice?

viera existed long before mi'quote
people don't want them because they're ' cute ' .
people want them because they appear in other ff titles.
there's plenty of references of this nature in the game already.
i don't see what the big deal is
fran isn't the only notable viera from ff lore, but she's the most recognized.
we wouldn't ( and shouldn't ) be forced to look like fran if they're ever added.
why do people who play other mmos expect this one to magically bend to the will
of every other mmo out there anyway? final fantasy has a fanbase that was here
before it became the next big mmo.
it's sort of wild to watch people outside of that always freak out about stuff just because
they're so thirsty for their WoW, league, wildstar, or skyrim experiences
if you want that, then just play that
i don't disagree that it would be nice if there was some diversity
maybe even some more dynamic gender options
if we're going to attack dimorphism, we might as well go full force.
Last edited by Giruvegan; 10-24-2015 at 03:51 PM.




I just don't want them because they're brining nothing new aside from weird feet (you can already purchase rabbit ears and claws from the Gold Saucer) :T

i can respect your opinion, but i do not agree.
a lot of people have brought up the gold saucer ears
but even if i got those, i would not be a viera
i'd be a lalafell with bunny ears
it's great that people can be dismissive about it but, there is lore
behind viera, and it would be nice if people could respect that.
and yes, maybe they'd be a little pretty, like they are in FFXII, but they were also known for being warriors,
which was one of my favorite aspects about them, besides their ability to communicate
with the forest ( er, jungle )
the dev team doesn't have to reinvent the wheel just because some people are having mmo fatigue. they just added dragon people / hyurs with scales on their faces + i've had friends say that they couldn't get into the game because they didn't like the medieval vibes, but i don't hear anyone decrying ab how unoriginal any of that is, because it's what's always been popular in the genre as a whole ; dragons, old english or a derivative, political/military influences, sexual dimorphism-the gang's all here.
if you're going to make an argument about things being the ' same ' then don't be hypocritical about it.
it's incredibly transparent.![]()
Last edited by Giruvegan; 10-24-2015 at 05:58 PM.
There is lore behind Viera in other games, Ivalice is not even located in the same universe as Eorzea, let alone the same planet. They have people on hand to write lore for FFXIV, pre existing lore from another game would likely be changed entirely.
@Ghastly, no, the developers shouldn't listen to every whim the player's ask for because it's extremely fragmented. There is no one side to the argument on here (see: housing demolition and horizontal gear progression), they should be calling the shots. Besides, if they did we'd see nothing but playable children of each of the races for each expansion pack. You also seem to be quite aggressive when discussing bunny people, I suggest you cool down a little... I'm not about to grab a knife, jump into FFXII somehow, and butcher the Viera. This forum is for discussion and for both sides of the argument, if you're looking for a circlejerk look elsewhere, developers need to see both sides to the coin.
Last edited by Colorful; 10-24-2015 at 06:20 PM.

they literally just put uretan-yensa in 3.0 and gave them a different name but you want to pretend like the writers fitting in viera would be impossible or a terrible imposition? lmao, c'mon man.
stop this.
Last edited by Giruvegan; 10-24-2015 at 06:59 PM.
I... was replying to Ghastly, not you.nowhere anywhere did i say that that other people couldn't have opinions.
what i did do is bring up the hypocrisy of these opinions.
you seem pretty intent on having a circle jerk with yourself.
i'm not into internet arguments because it's not 2001 anymore.
you don't have to like my tone. i'm not here for you.
& i didn't come here to say what i'm saying to offend you or anyone else.
get over yourself.
maybe instead of pretending to be offended by some imaginary insults you could actually add some discussion to the thread.
it looks like you attempted it, but you were hoping that i'd get angry first. what? so i could look ' irrational ' and ' angry '
when i replied?
so very transparent.
don't try to detract anything i'm saying if you can't follow my train of thought.
Edited my post to make it more obvious, I thought it would have been obvious with the @Ghastly but I suppose not.
Last edited by Colorful; 10-24-2015 at 06:21 PM.

oman, i am so srry.
i should probably go to sleep
i completely missed it : s
i edited and replied tho.
Last edited by Giruvegan; 10-24-2015 at 06:50 PM.
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