Please, stop with your backseat healing!

[bounddreamer]

Low level heals give tanks 50-75% of their hp in one shot (when downsynced). Dps spamming heals when the tank goes below 99% irritates me to no end.

This right here. This is what I'm talking about, and why it irritates me when the dps try to throw a physic or cross classed cure at the tank.

And I have mentioned it to the player, who then gets shirty with me about telling them how to play.

The tank doesn't need to be constantly topped off. It's a waste of mana, it's boring, and if that's what I have to do if I'm called upon for Tam Tara the third time this week I will scream, leave, and happily take a 30 min penalty because I don't play heals just to spam one spell mindlessly.

[Dotsusama]

Did you stop to recommend to the player not to bother with healing in TTD? Because if they were a Lancer (note: Dragoon can't have any healing spells) then they were either new to the class, new to instanced content, or new to the game in general. Perhaps they're from a game like GW2 where abilities that heal or support other party members was just part of completing team content fast and efficiently.

You don't have to come here and tell *US* to not do this, because it's not actively helping. I wonder how many players actually come and look at a thread like this specific one and then actually learn from it. Just because such an idea is a no-brainer to you, I, and others who have been playing the game longer, doesn't mean that it's something that should be assumed common knowledge. But that knowledge is useless to educating a new player if you don't stop to take the time to tell them about it when it comes up.

[Atoli]

Did you stop to recommend to the player not to bother with healing? [...] But that knowledge is useless to educating a new player if you don't stop to take the time to tell them about it when it comes up.

We do. Every. single. time.
And they just keep doing it. It's especially bad when even high-lvl players do it. I feel like just no longer healing and leaving it to the self-proclaimed back-up-healers (BLMs and SMNs) in lvl 60 roulette who STILL think their 150 healing potency heal is gonna be helpful.
(And I'm not talking about self-heal or a situation where the healer is dead and maybe your crappy little heal DID save the run. I'm talking about those people who think they know better how to judge when a tank is in danger and start spamming their mini-heal even with the healer alive and well right beside them...)

[TitaniaYaerem]

I struggle to grasp why a dps would want to backseat heal, unless for whatever reason the healer dies. Even then....I still don't heal if the boss is close to being dead.

[Zaj_Quilos]

*thing happens to me twice so i'll post a thread telling everyone to stop doing the thing that never really happens*

[Sida]

I struggle to grasp why a dps would want to backseat heal, unless for whatever reason the healer dies. Even then....I still don't heal if the boss is close to being dead.

Here is one way how it goes. The player is used to play a healer, the sort of healer that casts cure spell for every single booboo, essentially chain healing where most of the heal goes to waste. They roll dps because, well, see other classes, end up with a healer who doesn't do that, and panic. And it doesn't even need to be one of those healers that play chicken with tank hp. Some over reacting people see a healer that just leaves room enough for a single heal spell to fit, say, 70% of tanks health, as major catastrophe happening, and feel the healer is not doing their job because when they play healer themselves it never happens to them. Because the overheal. I would wager majority of dps players who do this have played healer to some extent.

Note, I'm talking specifically of those who pitch in with healing when there is absolutely no need for it. Actually helping with heals when the situation calls for it is completely another bowl of soup.

[Eloah]

Sadly sometimes you have to backseat heal, in 4 man dungeons, and I'm sure the Tank and other DPS of that run somewhat appreciate it. Now I don't mean when everything is going fine and there is a minor hiccup. I mean when you know you NEED to heal. The best instance is when a big hit happens and the healer has taken a lot of damage. If you are a Summoner you can heal them as a minor buffer until they prepare their own heals, or no worries if they die because you can rez them. However, if you are a Black Mage, or a Paladin with either Cure or Clemoncy, you might be spamming that "spell" so as to avoid a wipe. I've only ever done it as a BLM. The next two instances might go hand in hand, either you all have suffered from a big attack and everyones HP is running low, you might throw a Physick on yourself or the healer to be safe, but only one of those two. But sometimes you have an "inexperienced" healer, for whatever reason, and helping them, when the time feels right, isn't bad, as long as it doesn't affect your job too much.

I have had several runs where the healer has died and I was playing on my BLM. Though I had gimpy heals I was able to keep the tank and other DPS alive so as to avoid a wipe. There was even one time where our healer DCed, and we couldn't boot her because it was a complete light party, yay? So I had to be the main healer as my Summoner, and this was in Fractal too. And also in one instance I "had" to play backup healer to a Scholar who had just returned to the game and was a little rusty. This was in Keeper, but sadly we didn't make it. T.T

So in short backup healing is "fine" as long as the person doing said backup knows when to do it. Having the tank at 75% HP, and everyone else is okay, is a no no, lol; for experienced player, newbies get a pass, but should leaen. But when everyone is about to die, having those back up heals to just provide a cushion is okay in my book.

[NovaLevossida]

I'll do whatever it takes to salvage the party. If you're doing your job and aren't dying, that means I get to DPS. If you're not and die, I have access to swiftcast, raise, crappy healing, and the potential to kite on my SMN. Once I fix all the problems, I can go back to strictly DPSing.

[Arkenne]

Today it was a dragoon using cure on the tank

Today it was a dragoon using cure

dragoon using cure

Just how D:?!
That guy was a hacker!

[bounddreamer]

Just how D:?!
That guy was a hacker!

If you read the thread you'd see I later corrected to indicate he was a lancer.