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    Quote Originally Posted by sirDarts View Post
    MY greed?! What the hell? How is it MY greed?! I don't want a personal house, never did, never will.
    You guys are the ones who are greedy and want to just ditch the game while taking up resources others could utilize better.
    Interesting...the people that were fortunate enough to be in game and obtain content that was introduced with limited availability are the greedy ones and not the ones that want to just take it from them simply because they want it are not being greedy? OK, how about selfish? Inconsiderate? Unreasonable? Or maybe just plain rude?

    Think about it. People missed out on special events like Lightning or Shantoto. Do they have some gods given right to just take someone else's special items because that player has put it in storage and is no longer actively using it...simply because this other player wants it and feels entitled to it? No...they need to wait until SE makes them available again to the public.

    And yes...that example does apply. Virtual assets obtained in game as a limited resource. If you missed your window of opportunity, you need to wait for those assets to be made available again. It should not empower anyone with the right to steal from other players.



    And you wouldn't be able to log in for 2 minutes from a friend, or from an Internet cafe? Don't make me laugh.
    And just how would one do that if they have no working platform to run the game on? In case you missed it, I mentioned scenarios where the platform was down or otherwise in accessible--so there was no way to log in at an internet cafe. This was a scenario where the game was made physically inaccessible through no fault of the player. What if here was something like a flood or another Tsunami event?

    The point of that post and cited examples were in response to the statement that there were no real life events that would prevent someone from accessing their housing for 45 days. Clearly this is not he case.

    As for someone else logging in on the account...there are issues with that as well. And not just IP lockout and OTP tokens either. How about if the account is suspended? As noted in that post...there is a reasonable excuse for doing so. Even in he other cases, for many it simply may not make sense to pay for a service they don't have to if hey know they can't access it for months on end.

    And even if they did give more wiggle room, you guys would STILL complain, the only reason 90 is being suggested is because 45 was give, if 90 was give, you would be crying you want 180, I know your kind very well.
    Maybe, maybe not. You may know some kinds of people, but not all kinds of people. 90 days would simply be more reasonable. In real life there are required time frames for these kinds of things. Things like a 30 day notice prior to seizure of property. Things like foreclosure that require you to miss consecutive monthly payments before proceedings can start, and then there is a timeline for that process to complete. For people familiar with such things, 90 days may feel appropriate. But then others may still feel uncomfortable with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raist View Post
    Interesting...the people that were fortunate enough to be in game and obtain content that was introduced with limited availability are the greedy ones and not the ones that want to just take it from them simply because they want it are not being greedy? OK, how about selfish? Inconsiderate? Unreasonable? Or maybe just plain rude?
    All of these words could just as well be used to describe people who hog limited resources despite not using them.

    Think about it. People missed out on special events like Lightning or Shantoto. Do they have some gods given right to just take someone else's special items because that player has put it in storage and is no longer actively using it...simply because this other player wants it and feels entitled to it? No...they need to wait until SE makes them available again to the public.

    And yes...that example does apply. Virtual assets obtained in game as a limited resource. If you missed your window of opportunity, you need to wait for those assets to be made available again. It should not empower anyone with the right to steal from other players.
    No, that example does not apply. It's once again apples and oranges. The reason the limited items are not currently accessible is NOT because of others hogging them despite not using them.
    The reason housing is currently accessible IS because of others hogging them despite not using them.

    And just how would one do that if they have no working platform to run the game on? In case you missed it, I mentioned scenarios where the platform was down or otherwise in accessible--so there was no way to log in at an internet cafe. This was a scenario where the game was made physically inaccessible through no fault of the player. What if here was something like a flood or another Tsunami event?
    In such cases you have WAY more important issues on your hand than losing a house in a video game.

    The point of that post and cited examples were in response to the statement that there were no real life events that would prevent someone from accessing their housing for 45 days. Clearly this is not he case.
    That's why I said that if there actually are such issues, losing a house in Final Fantasy would be the least of your concerns.

    Maybe, maybe not. You may know some kinds of people, but not all kinds of people. 90 days would simply be more reasonable. In real life there are required time frames for these kinds of things. Things like a 30 day notice prior to seizure of property. Things like foreclosure that require you to miss consecutive monthly payments before proceedings can start, and then there is a timeline for that process to complete. For people familiar with such things, 90 days may feel appropriate. But then others may still feel uncomfortable with it.
    I know your kind, you are insatiable.
    SE had to choose an arbitrary number, they decided to choose 45 days, it's more than the basic subscription period, so you can easily take a month free.
    And nothing would change if the number would be 90, you would still cry that you want more, maybe not you in person, but there would be others.
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