Can something be done about light farming?

[dragonkyn20]

I want lights as much as the next person, but I gotta agree with this. There are enough people who attempt Bismarck EX with their i110s. (It doesn't end well.)

And people wonder why they can't meet the DPS checks.

[starLivitation]

if u ask a nerf the people who happily grinded this like zombies for multi relics are gona be butt hurt lol

[Gunspec]

if u ask a nerf the people who happily grinded this like zombies for multi relics are gona be butt hurt lol

Anyone who has all of the zeta relics is probably numb from the waist down anyway after sitting on their butt forever. And for people like me, who already have a few zetas, this makes it easier to get the ones that I am still missing.

Light farm from 110 to 115 was a nice idea when it was introduced, since you got credit from every type of content. But as a 5-point upgrade, it still takes more time than any other relic phase.

[Ashkendor]

if u ask a nerf the people who happily grinded this like zombies for multi relics are gona be butt hurt lol

I think you missed the part where lights have already been nerfed at least twice.

I ain't even mad.

[Niwashi]

I wanted to let you know that we're planning to ease up on some of the Zodiac weapon-related quests in Patch 3.1.

Most of the stages have been nerfed plenty already, but Novus and Nexus are still a significant hurdle. Perhaps those two could use a bit more help. The other upgrade stages, ... probably not.

[Maikeru]

if u ask a nerf the people who happily grinded this like zombies for multi relics are gona be butt hurt lol

Got 2 Zetas (I know some people got all of them. Goodness) before HW. I couldn't care less if they nerf them even further. They're not even useful anymore. There's no merit on having them either, other than that "little consideration" we'll get with the new relic quest.

[Niwashi]

I think you missed the part where lights have already been nerfed at least twice.

And not just lights. The atma upgrade was notorious for how grindy it was when it first came out. It's now a pretty quick and easy upgrade. (I think my average was around 3 or 4 fates per region to get an atma.) For the Animus books, the biggest original complaint involved ridiculous wait times for the needed FATEs to show up, but either I've been surprisingly lucky, or those particular FATEs are happening more often than they used to.

[Saccharin]

No, I don't want to see people using level 50 weapons in a level 51+ dungeon or trial.

The zeta weapon is 135 and is useful just past mid pay while levelling.

[Colorful]

The zeta weapon is 135 and is useful just past mid pay while levelling.

I'm aware, I used it until at least level 55-56, but what's your point? If they're farming light they'll be using the Novus, which is ilvl 110. I suppose I should have worded my post better: "No, I don't want to see people using a weapon that's not an appropriate ilvl for the content they're doing"?

[Klamor]

Well, let's look at this. If a good player tries to use an under-leveled weapon and performs poorly, they'll only switch it on for the last boss to get the light. If a bad player tries to use an appropriate level of gear and still performs poorly, we just complain about that person and probably kick them from the group. How is this any different for a player who tries to use their i110 for the entire dungeon? And for the most part, you could get away with using your Novus/Nexus all the way up to Sohm Al and do just fine; there's no reason not to be able to get light from those two dungeons. Any higher, and obviously you'd notice the difference.

The other side to this (and yes, I've got 3 pre-nerf Zodiacs) is that I'd love for any and all nerfs to be had to the current questline, assuming that the "consideration" is given on a per relic-basis. Meaning, that even though I completed every step of the PLD questline within a week or so of each of their releases, the "consideration" would only be counted toward the relevant relic for the job to which it applies. I'd like to be able to have a nerfed road to the remaining zodiacs (mainly for glamor and completion's sake) and get said "consideration" toward their applicable 3.1 questlines. As it stands right now, the difficulty in just getting the dungeon portions completed (nerf, or no) is what's keeping me from working on the others.