Has there been any mentioning of job changes for 3.1?

[adn]

You can bet on SMN/AST/WAR changes in PVP. SMN and AST are almost certain, WAR is more iffy.

Aside from that, SE is pretty tight lipped about class changes.

[RiceisNice]

Very much in agreement with this statement. PLD DPS should not come close to WAR DPS. WAR is more difficult to play correctly and less forgiving of CD mismanagement, so there's that reason,

How is it nesssescarly more "difficult" let alone "less forgiving"? The former is rather subjective, but warrior's mitigation CDs aren't too that far off of paladins and healing the two tanks are more-or-less the same when you boil down to effective healing/hp and equal gear

Make some fights where the tankbusters hit so hard and in sync with PLD's CDs that PLDs survive much more reliably than WARs,

It's a tight line to walk. When you start making content do so much damage that you need a paladin as the to-go maintank, DRK falls out in favor. And for the record, DRKs have functionally the same mitigation abilities to survive tank busters as paladins do minus the shield, and warrior more-or-less the same timers for their own mitigations through vengence, ToB and raw intuition if it's a physical.

but DPS checks are so non-existant that it gives raids a reason to use Paladin's strengths, without making it necessary for every Paladin to push out big DPS. Actually make some fights that satisfy people who like more traditional tanking.

People are bringing up paladin's "strengths" when there honestly isn't much to go off of. They have HG that comes with a whooping 7 minute cooldown. They're not all that much better than DRK or even WAR when it comes to eating tankbusters that come at regular intervals (unless you want to factor in shield blocking, which even then becomes random/gimmicky and it's effectiveness is up in the air because of warrior's raw intuition) Stun locking drains into your TP more than anything (and PLDs still don't have the means to manage it or otherwise mitigate it's consumption) and is not on the oGCD, making it rather cumbersome for on-the-spot interrupts for boss mechanics. Even if you were to make fights more oriented on tank survival, DRK/WAR aren't too far off on that regard compared to PLD, although warrior has the better means of offtanking.

[SpookyGhost]

They havent said anything about it though lol. Pure speculation still.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Stance-on-Pld

[KingOfAbyss]

Just make raids with all of the jobs created so far mandatory, so we'll have 1 WAR, 1 PLD, 1 DRK, 1 WHM, 1 SCH, 1 AST, 1 BLM, 1 SMN, 1 BRD, 1 MCH, 1 MNK, 1 DRG, 1 NIN.

Pretty sure that Savage will be a thing of the past

[Ashkendor]

Make some fights where the tankbusters hit so hard and in sync with PLD's CDs that PLDs survive much more reliably than WARs, but DPS checks are so non-existant that it gives raids a reason to use Paladin's strengths, without making it necessary for every Paladin to push out big DPS. Actually make some fights that satisfy people who like more traditional tanking. Make it so that PLD's DPS disadvantage is worth taking for their mitigation advantages. Whether this means different fights or changes to PLD's defensive capabilities, either way it should happen.

This just exchanges one glaring problem for another, though. If you make it so nobody but a PLD can reliably survive the tank busters, you end up with PLD having a guaranteed slot in that particular raid. Contrary to popular belief, that's not what we're looking for here.

Let's face it - when you get down to it, high DPS is a defensive capability as well. The faster it dies, the less damage it does.

[CosmicKirby]

Right now, WAR is in a great spot -- too great, actually. With the current skill setup, every raid is guaranteed to have a WAR, while DRK and PLD have to duke it out for the other slot. It's completely imbalanced and pretty unfair to everyone except warriors. PLD/DRK isn't really a thing, and PLD/WAR is only marginally a thing.

This is pretty much exactly why I'm hoping that next Xpac they toss in a competitive Off-tank. I'm fine with DRK and PLD competing for a MT slot, but WAR is currently sitting in a completely uncontested Off-tank slot. Maybe make Samurai an Off-tank similar to War? With pretty darn high DPS abilities, but can also tank.

Iunno, it seems that Square's philosophy with what to add in HW was to add classes that compete with raid slots that had none before. (BRD vs MCH, and AST in theory competing with either SCH or WHM based on stance).

[odie]

I'm waiting for Holy to get nerfed again.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I'm waiting for Holy to get nerfed again.

...Why? It got nerfed to the ground several times already. Anymore and you might as well just get rid of the spell.

[odie]

...Why? It got nerfed to the ground several times already. Anymore and you might as well just get rid of the spell.

I know. as a White Mage I would never actually be serious about wanting Holy nerfed. Believe me, i miss 2.0 Holy... my initial post was being sarcastic.

[Dualgunner]

I heard a rumor that they were planning to nerf DRG. Tell me this isn't true D: