Content gates vs instant access: 4.0 and beyond

[Nomad-phx]

With the first expansion now out theres a HUGE amount requests to abolish the need of completing the previous msq to access newer contents,to where 4.0 is confirmed to NOT REQUIRE ANY 3.0 msq to access. But what does this mean? All newer job skills/relevant tomestone instances/flying need you to explore through certain areas of 3.0 that essentially* require you to do the msq(they aren\\\\\\'t unlocked by strictly msq but you can\\\\\\'t just buy HW and get to idyllshire without doing msq @ all you rampant hair-splitters lol) so my questions are this: how can 4.0 expand our characters without needing to be lvl 60?(lvl 60 IS possible without doing any msq but you wont have relevant dungeons to grind) does this mean 4.0 won't be lvl 70? How can you fly without obtaining the compass?(side quest unlocked at certain point in msq) and if lvl 60 is the cap til 5.0, how will our characters obtain higher power? Will expansions alternate from exp lvl/skill on 1 to enhanced traits on the next?

[Morningstar1337]

how can 4.0 expand our characters without needing to be lvl 60?(lvl 60 IS possible without doing any msq but you wont have relevant dungeons to grind) does this mean 4.0 won't be lvl 70?

INB4 Horizontal Progression

How can you fly without obtaining the compass?(side quest unlocked at certain point in msq) and if lvl 60 is the cap til 5.0, how will our characters obtain higher power?

Supposed they make the ability to fly a HW exclusive and instead gives mounts an alternate function (I keep hearing the worlds Sky and Sea when XI is brought up and HW already got the sky so...)

Will expansions alternate from exp lvl/skill on 1 to enhanced traits on the next?

Dunno. It seems unlikely that SE will gate traits behind quests though.

[Sove92]

They confirmed flying is gonna stay. I suppose you can either get the compass from 4.0 content or you simply need to do the 3.0 quest for it. Just because you don't need to complete 3.x to start 4.0 doesn't mean you don't need to touch 3.x at all to get the full experience.

[OPneedNerfs]

I never understood how anyone can truthfully say they enjoy a game when they request to skip 90% of the game and demand the same things/privileges that those who played the other 90% do.

[Martin_Arcainess]

I never understood how anyone can truthfully say they enjoy a game when they request to skip 90% of the game and demand the same things/privileges that those who played the other 90% do.

Yeah it's kinda like buying DLC but not wanting to do the main game itself.

[Archaell]

We can blame the "end game" mentality for that. Luckily MSQ is major turn off for players that I call "the spacebar nation" (skip everything story related and rush to max level).

I am interested in the application of 4.0 myself. It will either start at level 60 which brings us the problem of gap between 50-60. Or it will start at level 50 which brings us the issue of current players. I am not sure that playerbase would be happy with doing low level content for which they are way overgeared. Of course you can level sync it, but neither I think many would be happy with glamour only gear.

But who knows? As it is assumed to take place underwater it might require different type of gear and maybe even different jobs. It would be interesting if our current jobs got an underwater specialization with its own levels post 50.

[Sove92]

I never understood how anyone can truthfully say they enjoy a game when they request to skip 90% of the game and demand the same things/privileges that those who played the other 90% do.

Because every other MMO does it like that so XIV should do as well, apparently.

People should be happy that gating HW to 2.x completion is currently blocking RMT bots from dominating HW gathering markets. They can't pass Steps and some other stuff without human aid, no matter how much teleporting they do.

[LandricFrey]

I never understood how anyone can truthfully say they enjoy a game when they request to skip 90% of the game and demand the same things/privileges that those who played the other 90% do.

New players want to be able to play alongside their friends, and their friends most likely would prefer doing the latest content over helping a friend(who may not even stay with the game) trudge through the lengthy MSQ.

[StriderShinryu]

New players want to be able to play alongside their friends, and their friends most likely would prefer doing the latest content over helping a friend(who may not even stay with the game) trudge through the lengthy MSQ.

Agreed. And the fact is, the MSQ doesn't really have any branches or direct player interaction so it is quite possible for someone new to the game to catch up storyline wise by just reading a recap or watching some videos, and I say that as someone who does like the MSQ. Is that as good as actually playing the MSQ? No, but it's not fair to say that people who want to skip some of the MSQ don't care about the MSQ. Some players just have other interests or would rather jump into what's current instead of wading through the old stuff.

[Martin_Arcainess]

See the thing is, alot of people are saying new players don't want to trudge through old content, mainly story quest but to them it's not old it's new, so what they skip all of 2.X story but read through HW story?