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  1. #791
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    Philia Felice
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Who feeds Jagds, how are you using LB, and are both tanks in DPS stance the entire time? Are healers DPSing for the first 10s of Jagd being out, and immediately after the Straf blows up? If your group's gear is i200-i205 I would look at this aspect first and foremost, there's a deceptive amount of DPS your healers can do here.

    I recommend roughly this order of people feeding, even if my group doesn't do this: MT > BRD/MCH > BLM > DRG or NIN if you aren't a fan of using a tank to feed. Ideally both of your melee stay on the boss, 15-20s of missed positionals and travel time add up to quite some % lost on the leg.

    I'm jealous of BLMs who get to turret there but I do believe BLM is one of the best feeders, unfortunately for you and me.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 10-16-2015 at 04:39 PM.

  2. #792
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    Lavitz Bale
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Me, NIN and BRD are feeding Jagds and I swap sides with the NIN depending on which leg we're on so he doesn't need to move much. NIN LBs near the start of 3rd leg with LB2, I think PLD stays in Shield Oath and switches to Sword before Wirbelwind and WAR is always in Deliverance, both of them are on the leg along with the MNK. SCH is helping DPS the BRD's doll, not sure what WHM is doing but I can ask. We're all i205+.

    It's going to be extremely difficult to have our BRD feed first since he's the one struggling the most on the dolls even though he's i206, and feeds really late even with the SCH helping DPS. Currently it's more like BLM > NIN > BRD. I'm guessing dolls aren't a problem for most BRDs? If so, I can see where we're losing that DPS.
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  3. #793
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    Mala Liath
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavitz_ View Post
    Me, NIN and BRD are feeding Jagds and I swap sides with the NIN depending on which leg we're on so he doesn't need to move much. NIN LBs near the start of 3rd leg with LB2, I think PLD stays in Shield Oath and switches to Sword before Wirbelwind and WAR is always in Deliverance, both of them are on the leg along with the MNK. SCH is helping DPS the BRD's doll, not sure what WHM is doing but I can ask. We're all i205+.

    It's going to be extremely difficult to have our BRD feed first since he's the one struggling the most on the dolls even though he's i206, and feeds really late even with the SCH helping DPS. Currently it's more like BLM > NIN > BRD. I'm guessing dolls aren't a problem for most BRDs? If so, I can see where we're losing that DPS.
    I remember our Bard having trouble w/ feeding too and having me/the Sch help him depending on which feed it was, I think it's pretty common actually. Worse, we had healer aggro problems for the longest time until the Bard got more gear. Is it normal to have those problems ? I don't believe so, but it's not out of the picture for some Bards to run into this. Just needs better CD planning and more practice.
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  4. #794
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    Everything minus the PLD going into Shield Oath for a time sounds like you guys should be destroying leg #3, especially with BV Foe's. Your WHM might be the key but honestly something someone's doing is suspect, gear has nothing to do with it with all that piled up.

    From my experience BRD/MCH are actually terribly slow feeders, at least on some of the Jagd sets, because they're very CD centric and the start of leg 3 has them blowing the majority of what they have, leaving little for Jagds. It's not really a problem though other than BRD/MCH losing Disembowel uptime, no one really loses anything by having them direct their temporarily low DPS on a Jagd. Any burst you guys give your BRD's Jagd is burst you could just give to the leg instead, best to just stick with DoTs if you do help him.

    Suggestions: PLD stays in Sword, even if he has to blow really nice stuff, make sure WHM is going HAM from the start of the leg to quite a bit into Jagds including Presence of Mind if not being used elsewhere, and if your group's still not 100% on it, swap PLD and NIN on Jagds. Also make sure your NIN isn't LBing at an inopportune time for his rotation.
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  5. #795
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    PLD stays in Sword, even if he has to blow really nice stuff, make sure WHM is going HAM from the start of the leg to quite a bit into Jagds including Presence of Mind if not being used elsewhere
    I'll suggest that, they're already annoyed at the amount of DPS they need to do so this should be interesting :P

    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    I remember our Bard having trouble w/ feeding too and having me/the Sch help him depending on which feed it was, I think it's pretty common actually. Worse, we had healer aggro problems for the longest time until the Bard got more gear. Is it normal to have those problems ? I don't believe so, but it's not out of the picture for some Bards to run into this. Just needs better CD planning and more practice.
    Same here, glad to know it's not just us having these problems.
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  6. #796
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    Lleyton Tails
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    Sorry if I ask in the wrong place, but dunno where to ask:

    I've read that there was a graphic glitch related to the glowing effect of Stardust rod. Do you know if it is still on (and if this affects all servers) or they solved it?
    I've just started the relic weapon quest and being rewarded with a bugged weapon would be sad (besides, I want it just for the look, since at this point there are stronger weapons)
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  7. #797
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    Shinryu Reishiki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lleyton View Post
    I've read that there was a graphic glitch related to the glowing effect of Stardust rod. Do you know if it is still on (and if this affects all servers) or they solved it?
    I've just started the relic weapon quest and being rewarded with a bugged weapon would be sad (besides, I want it just for the look, since at this point there are stronger weapons)
    The weapon at the end of the quest (Lilith Rod) has no issues, but the Stardust Rod has been messed up since the Lilith Rod was introduced. The glowing sphere of light was originally placed on the glowing orb in the comet, but now it floats above for whatever reason.

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  8. #798
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    Waliel Hla
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    New shiny EU servers and can't slide cast anymore -- 0.1s interruptions on everything after moving. BLM confirmed literally unplayable.

    E: The window for slide casting basically got halved or more for me. I need to get used to this.

    E2: I may be imagining things, but even mana ticks feel snappier. Did normal rotation for a few minutes, and a couple of times I didn't get my second tick before F3 finished when I was sure I would get it. But as I said, I might just be imagining this.
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    Last edited by Waliel; 10-20-2015 at 07:16 PM.

    Yoshi-P is doing his best and is patching Endwalker. Please wait warmly until it is ready.

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    Yukino Nadeshiko
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    Slidecasting still goes pretty well for me.
    I can also weave double oGCDs into a single GCD now which was not possible before (with any class!).
    This is seriously a godsend.
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  10. #800
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    Linh Emeran
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    Behemoth
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ShinryuReishiki View Post
    The weapon at the end of the quest (Lilith Rod) has no issues, but the Stardust Rod has been messed up since the Lilith Rod was introduced. The glowing sphere of light was originally placed on the glowing orb in the comet, but now it floats above for whatever reason.

    I actually posted this ii the bug forum multiple times with comparison pictures, but it got moved to insufficient information each time.
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