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  1. #51
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    Excellent point ! I, neither, would never dare ask for a crafter's attention when my gear is bound. It could be taking 1 minute to fully pentameld it, just like it could take 3 hours. I would never ask this, even from my best friends.

    On the other hand, it's difficult to imagine another system in which it would requiere "hand the mats over to the crafter". Sometimes you pick random crafters for the melds, and some are not trustworthy. Some would certainly abuse their privileges and leave with the mats.

    If SE is to find a solution about this melding issue, they should really put some throrough thoughts into it..
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    Wouldn't using 40 materia to meld one be the same thing we got now? I mean. Your still gonna waste 39 materia at 100,000gil each...
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongsunZhao View Post
    Wouldn't using 40 materia to meld one be the same thing we got now? I mean. Your still gonna waste 39 materia at 100,000gil each...
    It takes all the uncertainty out of it. You don't know if you're going to need 5 or 500 materia to get your meld to stick.
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  4. #54
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    Nadja Zielle
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    I was a super duper mega crafter in XI and I did tons of crafting in version 1 as well.

    However with vertical progression in this game and the speed in which it moves I have a hard time getting any gear, esp at 100k-1m+ a piece and then spending 1m-20m to meld it just to get a few months use out of it, esp when there are 10-13 pieces you need to do that to. If I would get more use out of it, sure, its an investment and worth the time/gil. But knowing that the next patch a few months down the line could possibly bring something that completely outdates the gear I just spent 100m gil to make and meld, esp when you have to do it on a job to job basis in some cases makes me put my tools down.

    Also there are no real raids right now, Alex is a joke so why even bother with DoW/M crafted gear, even if fully melded its superior?

    The whole system they have going of over catering to the uber casual raiding and over catering to the super hardcore crafters is just ridiculous.
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  5. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by cgbspender View Post
    Excellent point ! I, neither, would never dare ask for a crafter's attention when my gear is bound. It could be taking 1 minute to fully pentameld it, just like it could take 3 hours. I would never ask this, even from my best friends.

    On the other hand, it's difficult to imagine another system in which it would requiere "hand the mats over to the crafter". Sometimes you pick random crafters for the melds, and some are not trustworthy. Some would certainly abuse their privileges and leave with the mats.

    If SE is to find a solution about this melding issue, they should really put some throrough thoughts into it..
    Once again, what melding issue??
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  6. #56
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    I don't mind grindy things, after all I have played some very grindy games, like Ragnarok Online (0.01% drop rates, etc...). But the meld system is the worst ever, it's literally a system made for botters and gilbuyers/sellers.

    I wonder how many 2** crafters are actually honest (haha). Well, whatever.
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongsunZhao View Post
    I'm totally shocked to have seen a friend of mine in game, waste over 100 blue IV materia on melds. (I have a photo... Thought I could just upload it, but asking for a URL or something)
    so what is the point in penta overmelding with IV materia right now? if is not needed for the better crafts and soon in a update will come a materia V.
    Also will be better if you gonna need too much materias then go to farm them instead buy it.
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  8. #58
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    Z'nnah Silverbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorlinta View Post
    so what is the point in penta overmelding with IV materia right now? if is not needed for the better crafts and soon in a update will come a materia V.
    1) For a first-mover advantage on new recipes thta may come out in 3.1. Getting enough Tier V materia could take a while and a ton of gil, and if penta-melded Tier IV is enough to do the new recipes, a crafter might be able to make a ton of money while everyone else is trying to get and meld in Tier V. Add to that that it may be a while before most people are willing to risk a Tier V materia on an overmeld, and it may not be much of a stat boost to wait, if the Tier V are only going in the one or two guaranteed meld slots in each item. Of course, it's a gamble, but life often is.

    2) That gils not going to spend itself, you know. And it doesn't earn interest. So what else is a gil-billionaire going to do?
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgbspender View Post
    It would be wonderful to be able to improve the success rate for melding. I'm sort of afraid, though, that being able to meld more easily would mean a huge increase of price in the materia economy.

    Easier to meld > more people buy materias > price inflates badly.

    I remember the days when CRIT/DET IV and gathering/perception were worth respectively 650k and 400k each. I'd rather not live those days again ^^
    ( <offtopic> And I pray that the next relic won't make any use of materias, eh </offtopic> )
    Sorry, pal, but this logic is completely wrong. The biggest consumption of materia comes from meld failures. When some people keep failing, they buy like 30 materia in a row, and that's how inflation works - high demand, low supply. When melds are secure, the materia demand will decrease by a lot. Materia prices will drop.
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    We already have the Solution! SE intends Airship explorations to aid with not only Materia Melding but with Materia markets/inflation as well.

    A large FC with 4 maxed out airships (properly customized) can yield anywhere from x100-200 tier 3 and IV crafting/gathering/battle materia per 30-40 hour voyage! Seriously! This is not only huge for the crafting/gathering world, but it also serves as a new means of income for small casual FC's.

    Spiritbonding is still a viable option and should not be abandoned, but its clear to me that this is SE's solution for all of the issues being discussed here. Yes RNG and Melding sucks, but with this much materia yield, there is no longer any reason to complain.

    I will not be purchasing materia ever again! Thank you SE!

    - Your friendly neighborhood 2star omnicrafter
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    Last edited by PROBOUND; 10-17-2015 at 03:21 AM.

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