IMO - If this game is to stay relevant - the gameplay needs a massive overhaul

[Gilthas]

What is horizontal progression I keep seeing the term thrown around and each person uses it to fit thier own desires.

Basically, horizontal progression is the Messiah that will save FFXIV because such a system has absolutely no flaws compared to the crap that is vertical progression. There is no such thing as BiS items in games with horizontal progression, new competitive items are constantly being added to the game and drop rates are very generous allowing players to gear up in a timely manner (just look at the history of FFXI for proof of these).

As for me. My problem isn't the vertical progression, it's that everything is so grindy that I'm forced to focus on only a small amount of content to achieve anything of worth. That's the real problem in FFXIV, the excessive grind.

[Sapphic]

Basically, horizontal progression is the Messiah that will save FFXIV because such a system has absolutely no flaws compared to the crap that is vertical progression. There is no such thing as BiS items in games with horizontal progression,

Too funny XD Of course there where BiS gear in FFXI with ABYSSMAL drop rates.

If you call FFXIV an "excessive grind" compared to FFXI, you never played FFXI. Or those rose tinted glasses have a double dose of tinting ^_^

Unless youre being sarcastic to horizontal progression ^_^