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  1. #21
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    rhett's Avatar
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    Theronn Mahariel
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    Exodus
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    Warrior Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by Martin_Arcainess View Post
    no need to blow a basket.
    Did............did you mean gasket?
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  2. #22
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    Freyyy's Avatar
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    Freyja Redgold
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Martin_Arcainess View Post
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    Thank you Mr. NinjaEdit. That's smart of you to edit your post 2min before answering to me. The "+25% HP 11250" part was non existent the first time I read your answer. I'll just say that now with your edit, your maths are only showing that I'm completely right when I'm saying that Defiance = ShO in terms of effective HP. I'll never argue with you again, you're a troll.
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  3. #23
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    Martin_Arcainess's Avatar
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    Martin Arcainess
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Ah your welcome, well tec I should be called MR Rougedit, haven't got him up to 30 yet. Yeah I did add the % part later on but what else do you think the +25 HP was for? STR?

    No, you're not completely right. WAR's benefits better from Adlo and Stone Skin then PLDs do due to their more healing and HP buff from Defiance. Don't forget that in terms of effectiveness \o and hey it was you who blew off your Gasket 1st not me.

    Did I get the Gasket part right?
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  4. #24
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Martin_Arcainess View Post
    No, you're not completely right. WAR's benefits better from Adlo and Stone Skin then PLDs do due to their more healing and HP buff from Defiance.
    PLD @ 14000 HP w/ ShO
    WAR @ 17500 HP w/ Defiance

    Both get a 10% Stoneskin

    PLD @ 15400 eHP w/ ShO
    WAR @ 19250 eHp w/ Defiance

    Both take 1750 damage

    WAR: 19250 - 1750 = 17500 (SS broken)
    PLD: 15400 - 1400 (20% of 1750) = 14000 (SS broken)

    Adlo same deal. In fact, with Convalescence PLD gets a stronger Adlo than WAR can. WAR's is stronger to spread with Deployment Tactics, though.

    Basically PLD gets a smaller shield, but also takes less damage, so it evens out. They also receive slightly more effective healing with tank stance and receive more effective healing from healing abilities. Outside of tank stance, their healing received is the same and SS/Adlo work the same.
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    Last edited by SpookyGhost; 10-14-2015 at 12:46 AM.

  5. #25
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    Freyyy's Avatar
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    Freyja Redgold
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    snip


    I love you SpookyGhost. Was too tired to do the maths to explain something that has already been calculated almost two years ago.
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  6. #26
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    Draelon Eldad
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 91
    In order for you to determine which one to main, is going to be based on which one you enjoy more, which is why I think you really need to level them both up to find the answer. If you want someone to tell you what to play than I say go warrior (thats just my preference)

    All tanks played well, are viable in current content.

    Do you want to MT or OT?
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  7. #27
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    Isius's Avatar
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    Character
    Astral Pyre
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 60
    @ OP I would go Warrior if you are enjoying it, most solid tank among the three tanks, and most future proof if you are going to raid with it, but Warrior does have a higher learning curve to fully optimize it, versus Drk.

    Dark Knight is currently fine for everything ingame too, if you want to have that edgy feel.

    But play whatever you like is more important.
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  8. #28
    Player Fourbestintoner's Avatar
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    Melodiane Valerian
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    Masamune
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    Black Mage Lv 42
    Glorious full str WAR master race.
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  9. #29
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    Aeres Silverfox
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    Tiamat
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    I am talking about alex savage here. If you are only going to focus on 1 tank and the choice is between DRK and WAR, then level DRK.
    WAR is predominantly used as a off-tank. DRK is accepted for either role (though, if you are DRK, you will be MT most of the time).


    If its casual content, you can level either. The content is easy enough that no one really cares which you are using.
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  10. #30
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    Character
    Syzygia Coahcuhhar
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus_Kenpachi View Post
    Lol at anyone trying to say that WAR isn't mandatory for raids.

    The tank hierarchy is as such:

    1. WAR
    2. WAR
    3. WAR
    4. WAR
    5. DrK
    786. PLD

    WAR is the most complete tank in the game and has ZERO downsides. DrK is good but has flaws. If you are endgame raiding and looking for a static them go with WAR. If you are just casually playing then go with whatever feels the best.
    At current gear levels (almost 15 ilvls overgeared from the i190 benchmark) no one tank is mandatory unless your group is bad. This guy can totally play whatever tank he wants and if he turns out to be skilled he'll get a group and clear content. What you do in your static is not the end-all-be-all strat, not even world 1st people make those claims.
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