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  1. #281
    Player
    Yhoiryo's Avatar
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    Character
    Snowy Dreams
    World
    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fluestergras View Post
    You break my heart :'( Whenever I have a MCH or 2nd BRD in my party, and if this one uses their stance, the run takes about 2 minutes longer, I think that's something I can live with *shrug*
    It's more like 6 - 8 minutes more for me, honestly I've just been getting really really bad brd players that stand there and doing pretty much nothing or don't know what to do to keep their dps up with WM on, I don't mind runs taking longer but when you see no effort coming from the other dps well you're doing your best it gets very frustrating as it's basically a free exp ride for them.

    Just had a vault run with a terrible brd, they wouldn't help with the whm's mp either cause the whm was struggling at times and even when I popped bishop with promote the brd wouldn't help out even when the whm was at about 500-1000mp
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  2. #282
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    Vuona's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Vuona Villava
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 70
    A genuinely clueless paladin tank in DD. I ended up BLM-tanking for most of the dungeon, but the last boss just hit too hard. When we had a hopeless-looking wipe, someone suggested kicking him, and then he finally speaks up the first time. "what is shield oath? is it limit break?"
    Eventually, we found the necessary abilities from his spellbook for him, and actually cleared the place.
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  3. #283
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    Whiteroom's Avatar
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    Character
    T'erra Branford
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    That one person in Alex who never rolls on loot...

    Also the SCH that pulled hate in A4 and then played like blah...

    And the tank in A3 that wouldn't soak the swat, wouldn't let the other pick up the second hand. Spun the boss around, never successfully positioning it. And wouldn't let the other tank take hate in last phase...

    But hey, I rolled a 99 and got three pieces of loot in three runs.
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    Last edited by Whiteroom; 10-14-2015 at 03:06 PM.

  4. #284
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    MentheusDreyar's Avatar
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    Character
    Mentheus Dreyar
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
    That one person in Alex who never rolls on loot...

    Also the SCH that pulled hate in A4 and then played like blah...

    And the tank in A3 that wouldn't soak the swat, wouldn't let the other pick up the second hand. Spun the boss around, never successfully positioning it. And wouldn't let the other tank take hate in last phase...

    But hey, I rolled a 99 and got three pieces of loot in three runs.
    Ugh don't get me started on A4 xD did my run yesterday and no one was picking up the lines and the OT only ate orbs on "his side" of the boss. So there we were me a SCH and a random WHM picking up those lines and eating orbs all while healing the party and especially ourselves as we had the damn debuff the whole time this happened on the last phase :'(

    Gotta say while i felt like a legend afterwards no one noticed our effort at all. Healing that run was harder than healing AS1 xD
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  5. #285
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    Dragoon130's Avatar
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    Character
    Iscariot Brathadh
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    A positive one from a last weeks. The last AV I need to hit 50 on Warrior. Tanking the last boss as my 10 month old plays with his toys next to my chair. He crawls under my desk, which is normal so I think nothing of it. Screen goes completely black. Hear the baby giggling. He had unpulged my powerstrip. It took 5 minutes for the modem to reconnect. Thankfully his god father was one of the dps and explained the whole situation. The party had a good laugh and I held him in my lap through the fight.
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    Last edited by Dragoon130; 10-14-2015 at 06:37 PM. Reason: Spelling Error

  6. #286
    Player Fluestergras's Avatar
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    Character
    Aru Tirauland
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yhoiryo View Post
    It's more like 6 - 8 minutes more for me, honestly I've just been getting really really bad brd players that stand there and doing pretty much nothing or don't know what to do to keep their dps up with WM on, I don't mind runs taking longer but when you see no effort coming from the other dps well you're doing your best it gets very frustrating as it's basically a free exp ride for them.

    Just had a vault run with a terrible brd, they wouldn't help with the whm's mp either cause the whm was struggling at times and even when I popped bishop with promote the brd wouldn't help out even when the whm was at about 500-1000mp
    Then you have really bad luck with bards

    This moment after clearing a dungeon, where you played like a young god in, and you realize that nobody commended you

    Or this party I had in Qarn NM, leveling AST. Had a WAR, DRG and SMN with me and mobs and bosses fell in lightspeed. I had a short DC during the first boss and thus died from death sentence - but neither boss nor the adds lived long enough to deal enough damage to make a healer neccessary. Spent 99% of the dungeon in cleric stance and trolling around with my cards and wishing I could commend everyone because this party was FREAKIN' AMAZING.
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  7. #287
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    Miste's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Miste Vaer
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Had a Fractal run with this MNK and a BRD. Run was really slow.

    We actually got to last boss but wiped 4 times because both of them were doing only 1/3 (33%) of the DPS they should be doing with their gear. They couldn't even kill adds fast enough (Even though 3 quick Malefic II's from me can kill them). I tried to help kill the adds but since their DPS was so low on the boss we weren't killing it fast enough so I was running out of MP to heal with because I was DPSing too much. I was on my alt character and she is not so well geared. Only i165 while these DPS were i180+.

    Finally after the 4th wipe the BRD left and we got a SMN replacement who was doing proper DPS and he was able to do enough DPS to backpack the MNK for a clear.

    Please DPS...if you can't do 70%-100% of your potential DPS at least aim for 50%....and if you can't do at least 50% of your potential DPS then maybe try a different job cause the one you are playing is not for you. You are making people suffer :/

    It really was the worst expert run I've had since expansion. Even back when people were barely geared we still passed DPS checks.
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    Last edited by Miste; 10-14-2015 at 07:08 PM.

  8. #288
    Player Fluestergras's Avatar
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    Character
    Aru Tirauland
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Fractal run as BRD with PLD, DRG and SCH. The DRG suffered laggs at final boss and let me kill the adds all by myself as the SCH (a brillant stance dancer) was too busy healing. Got two commendations for throwing arrows like shit.
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  9. #289
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    AkashiXI's Avatar
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    Character
    Akashi Mousai
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fluestergras View Post
    Fractal run as BRD with PLD, DRG and SCH. The DRG suffered laggs at final boss and let me kill the adds all by myself as the SCH (a brillant stance dancer) was too busy healing. Got two commendations for throwing arrows like shit.
    As a Bard main I find it almost insulting if the melee dps helps with adds. A Windbite and occasional RoD gets the job for the most part, at least with a 200 weapon. Alternatively the healer really should kill adds on their own, but it's not a major dps loss for Bards to multi dot.
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  10. #290
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    sirDarts's Avatar
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    Character
    Elyza Arcanas
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by AkashiXI View Post
    As a Bard main I find it almost insulting if the melee dps helps with adds. A Windbite and occasional RoD gets the job for the most part, at least with a 200 weapon. Alternatively the healer really should kill adds on their own, but it's not a major dps loss for Bards to multi dot.
    Yeah, no. Those Adds are really not the healer's job. The randomness of their side of approach, the fact that they are not really close together, and the need for relatively high HPS, and cleansing of explosive, all talk against the healer wasting time with them.
    I will gladly DoT the boss, put a Shadow Flare underneath him, and basically make up for most of the lost DPS on the boss you suffer because you have to deal with the Adds, but you can't make up for the HPS and cleanse I am required to do so we don't wipe.
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