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    SkyBane001's Avatar
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    Alune Ura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crissy View Post
    If the machinist is a physical class, why does the gauss attachment magically hang in the air just beyond the gun barrel(s) with no visible means of support? I suppose it might depend on non-magical electromagnetic or plasma fields of some sort, but if we have that sort of tech, why are we shooting bullets and not bolts of degenerate neutron matter or particle beams? "Aether" is not an answer because that\\\\\\\\'s the catch-all medium of magic and magical damage in this game.

    It\\\\\\\\'s a conundrum wrapped in a paradox, just like the class.
    You should pay attention to the class quest dialogue. Machinists actually use Aether as the firing mechanism on the weapon. It\\\\\\\\'s the spark that ignites the powder to send the projectiles forward. That\\\\\\\\'s why they wear those boxes on their hips, it allows for tapping in to your aether without magical training. All machinist gadgets and gizmos are fueled by your own Aether. MAGItek.
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    Tsilyi L'sombra
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyBane001 View Post
    All machinist gadgets and gizmos are fueled by your own Aether. MAGItek.
    I love Magitek but to be fair tapping into your own aether without magical training isn't the way Magitek worked in FFVI and it is also not the way it works in FFXIV.
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsilyi View Post
    I love Magitek but to be fair tapping into your own aether without magical training isn't the way Magitek worked in FFVI and it is also not the way it works in FFXIV.
    -This isn't FFVI.

    -I don't think it's been established we're using magitek (at least, not the same as the Garleans who have no affinity for aether) as opposed to some other nonsensical name like the aetherconvertor or transmitter, that allows you to use aether for your machinery.
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    I'm aware it isn't FFVI, but people think of FFVI when they think of Magitek because that is where it was coined. You are correct that we are not using Magitek as defined in FFXIV's terms either. In FFXIV Magitek is similar to FFVI in that it is the taking of an outside source of aether or magic and containing it in a vessel to transmit or use as a power source. In FFXIV the aether source is Ceruleum, which is a substance created by draining aether from the Crystals. The Garlean Empire uses it to power their devices. I would like Machinist to be working through Magitek as well but unfortunately not... YET.
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    Anapurna Rakshasa
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyBane001 View Post
    You should pay attention to the class quest dialogue. Machinists actually use Aether as the firing mechanism on the weapon. It\\\\\\\\'s the spark that ignites the powder to send the projectiles forward. That\\\\\\\\'s why they wear those boxes on their hips, it allows for tapping in to your aether without magical training. All machinist gadgets and gizmos are fueled by your own Aether. MAGItek.
    Perhaps you should pay more attention to the forum posts you comment on. My point was, despite the in-game explanation, it makes no sense. Why depend on "real world physics" with "magitek" occasionally thrown in as a stopgap, cover-all, or a device to limit job capabilities? There are elegant connections made in other classes, but the machinist dynamic is rather clumsily constructed and justified. Gauss barrel is the most obvious example in that it is central to combat.
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