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    Morningstar1337's Avatar
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    Aurora Aura
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    The Dragoon story sugesstion (spoilers)

    Okay right now, Heavenwards have made several Job charatcers relevant to the story, the most notable case is Estinien Wyrmblood, however I think that his fate had tore open gaping plot hole for players that haven't DRG to 50 yet (And if my knowedge of the Echo is correct it cannot change the past, so any forays into the past would be a Stable Time Loop), so I'm here to ask if there are any changes made to the story that adress the issue, and if not, suguest a retcon for the DRG story for players that had gotten to the point where the Azure Dragoon helps the WoL in HW with a under 50 DRG.
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    It;s considered happening in the "past" so like think of a giant flashback when you become a dragoon .

    "Oh yes I remember when Estinien was even more annoying but less of an idiot...those were the days"
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    Dia Lancea
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    All ARR quests and events took place before Heavensward, timeline wise, no matter when they were done by the player.
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    Rouvaldr Zazan
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    All quests, be they crafter, gatherer, class, job, are all in a time bubble. It keeps things much more simpler.
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    Ven Black
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Okay right now, Heavenwards have made several Job charatcers relevant to the story, the most notable case is Estinien Wyrmblood, however I think that his fate had tore open gaping plot hole for players that haven't DRG to 50 yet (And if my knowedge of the Echo is correct it cannot change the past, so any forays into the past would be a Stable Time Loop), so I'm here to ask if there are any changes made to the story that adress the issue, and if not, suguest a retcon for the DRG story for players that had gotten to the point where the Azure Dragoon helps the WoL in HW with a under 50 DRG.
    All the job quests are locked into a time bubble, because it is assumed that you are doing them before you complete the MSQ, not after.

    As for the echo not changing the past, that is up for debate. We were the ones who gave Cid his goggles after he gave them to us and the echo kicked in, sending us back to his past. Also, in 1.0 we dropped in on a conversation Minfilia was having and she noticed.
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    Indira Light
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    Twintania
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy2nd View Post
    All ARR quests and events took place before Heavensward, timeline wise, no matter when they were done by the player.
    ^ This. Plus because HW is an expansion, and not the game itself, I highly doubt they'd make any changes to ARR in that nature to fit with an expansion.
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    Lilila Lila
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    Can I hijack this thread to say I did not think the 50-60 DRG storyline was at all relevant to the skills you got?
    I would have preferred if the MC got infected with the Dragon blood and had to come to terms with and learn to control it, hence the "Blood of the Dragon" abilities. Instead, an NPC got infected with dragonblood...?
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    Reila Circus
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    On the plus side, I did like how some dialogue changes if you were a Dragoon or not during the main story.

    Estinien acknowledges the job quests during the 2.0 events and says something along the lines of "with two Azure Dragoons" in the Aery.
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    Danielle Leclair
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    White Mage Lv 60
    All class and job quests are meant to happen before we're known as the warrior of light, aka before 2.0 story finale. It doesn't make much sense now but once we get the level 99 uncap and people are speeding through the msq and levels it will make more sense.
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    Avi Taro
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 100
    I've only done the level 50 dragoon quest, but Alberic does indirectly comment on the events of the end of the MSQ when you start the first dragoon HW quest. At least I'm assuming that's what he was referring to.

    Also how do I tag spoilers?
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