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    Crissy's Avatar
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    Anapurna Rakshasa
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    Malboro
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    Dragoon Lv 60

    Dungeon runs that seem to attract "bad" players?

    First, notice the quotation marks - "bad" players defined as having bad attitudes or habits and being difficult to play with.

    I'm curious to know if anyone has noticed particular dungeons, raids, or primals where encounters with these people are frequent. Half the time I run Fractal Continuum there's a player who disrupts the group -- pulling before the healer has a chance to regain MP and then calling him/her out after the wipe, screaming at the DPS for swiping aggro on bosses, refusing to heal a player who doesn't measure up to personal standards - the familiar set of bad manners. I rarely encounter these people on other runs, but in Fractal Continuum... oh my.

    Are there runs that attract these kind of people? If so, why? Perhaps - just speculating - because they're perceived as comparatively easy speed-runs for collection?

    It's unfortunate that Fractal Continuum is such a cesspool, unless it's my bad luck. That's a fairly fun run when the group is right.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    The closest thing I've seen to this was CT after FCoB removed the weekly lockout.

    Actually, just CT in general.

    Dungeons, primals, etc are really hit and miss and I haven't perceived any particular pattern. Maybe Pharos Sirius before it was nerfed since it set the bar a tiny bit higher, and you know how that goes...
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    Ayuh'ra Bajhiri
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    Mateus
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    I have never had this issue with Fractal Continuum or Neverreap either for that matter.

    Brayflox's Longstop NM, however, goodness....

    Yes, even with a party made up entirely of scaled down lvl 60s.
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    Ira Malcolm
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    Excalibur
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Dungeons like Fractal and Vault are simple enough on DPS, especially for ranged classes, but it feels like speedruns and large pulls are so endemic to runs there that it's pretty easy to be overwhelmed trying to heal them; I've started avoiding queues for Expert and Vault as a healer because of it. :<
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimeric View Post
    Dungeons like Fractal and Vault are simple enough on DPS, especially for ranged classes, but it feels like speedruns and large pulls are so endemic to runs there that it's pretty easy to be overwhelmed trying to heal them; I've started avoiding queues for Expert and Vault as a healer because of it. :<
    I feel sorry for you, those runs are especially tuned for speed runs, and it's a shame the tanks you get to come to your conclusions don't properly rotate their defensive CDs, if you're having a hard time healing, it's not your fault.
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    Coeurl
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    Steps seems to be an issue with trolls more than anything. Had tanks running back to the Cannon, people shooting the Dragon Killer WAY before he even was close. After a 30min wait with a friend who needed it to just get to the expansion that was hard to watch.
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    Aoife Taiyo
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 67
    Dzemael and Brayflox for me
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    Anubis Nephthys
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    Goblin
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    I'd imagine it's because if people are rushing to get tomes, they're gonna choose fractal. So they will pull for you if you're pulling too small. I will do this on ninja with shadewalker sometimes f the tank pulls too small (2 or 3 enemies/1 pack).
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    Anubis Nephthys
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    On mobile, so I can't edit my post.
    I'm a PLD main, the class with the worst AoE aggro, so I don't want to hear about how hard big pulls are. They're not.
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    Anthea Faye
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 60
    Brayflox NM and Stone Vigil NM in my experience. I haven't ran Stone Vigil NM much but it always seems like that's the dungeon where your gear starts to sorta matter, especially when it comes to tanking.
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