The issue nobody wants to address

[Archaell]

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That's the thing we are discussing here. Some people don't care, that's kinda predictable. The issue is that healers and tanks who don't care are eyesore, they are in the limelight, while dps role is allowed to don't care in the shadows.

Sometimes I just want to sit down, log in, queue for DREX and log off. Not go through the nonsense that is Party Finder for easy content and wait for it to fill up. So yeah, many will return to DF due to all content being more than doable on it and there's no doubt about that. Convenience trumps all, there is a reason the Dungeon Finder system is now a common thing in MMOs.

That's the thing I am interested in - convenience. There is also reason why so many tanks and healers do not play with randoms - out of convenience.

[Colorful]

That's the thing I am interested in - convenience. There is also reason why so many tanks and healers do not play with randoms - out of convenience.

I don't know where you got the idea that tanks and healers don't play with randoms, but they do. Almost every FC member that's a tank or healer does DREX on the daily, even when one of them is a dedicated crafter. Every friend of mine who is a tank or a healer (or both) has and will always use DF. As I said, it's incredibly convenient so "Why not?". There may be a few who do not use the Duty Finder, but that applies to all roles, DPS included. The problem being that there isn't enough tanks or too many DPS. I couldn't care less though early on. As for the later levels, DREX pops within 5 minutes and Alexander usually less than 5 during primetime as a DPS. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I wonder what would happen if the entire playerbase started putting in as much effort as the average df person and nothing would ever be cleared again.

There are times where I get the urge to do that myself when I get a DPS doing sub 600 in almost full i200 gear, and a Warrior doing 300 or less DPS and not applying Storm's Eye either (or applying it at random). I'd be punishing myself too, so I'd rather not. But it is funny the people who go in with "It's Duty Finder, I do what I want" mentality, imagine if everyone shared that mindset? I do feel bad for the Healers that can end up with both a bad tank and two bad DPS. =l

[Archaell]

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I did say many, not all of them. It's great that your friends are good enough to use DF. There probably aren't that many who do not use it - they just use it as DPS role. My point was focused more towards bad and good players. If you are good tank or healer, after week of using PF instead of DF, you should have full friend list of dps who would do content with you, and whose performance would match your own. Combined with longer lasting relationships, players would then be able to form premades, or join DF with at least few new dps friends, which would decrease the amount of "free" tanks and healers in DF. I admit, it is my assumption, but that's what experiments are for - to prove or disprove assumptions.