The issue nobody wants to address

[Archaell]

This is how I feel atm about responsibility of each role

To provide a little legend...

1) Tank has to tank even if it's killing him inside.
2) Healer has to heal, dpsing might be disliked.
3) And this guy... this guy expects you to do stuff for him.

[ChandraNoctis]

Except the whole point of the dungeons is to kill stuff (and that advances the story or gets you loot)... and who's supposed to be doing the stuff killing - oh yeah that's the dps...

[Natashio]

Square Enix and Producer/Director Naoki Yoshida, please shut down the Duty Finder for one week. Just one week. That's all I ask.

By the way..this thread... eh, is a pretty interesting read.

[Silica-chan]

Square Enix and Producer/Director Naoki Yoshida, please shut down the Duty Finder for one week. Just one week. That's all I ask.

Please no I don't want to fate grind for days in order to level my BRD I prefer to do dungeons and get some gear which fits my characters level (while I could easily craft me some I rather sell it to get me more money )

[Archaell]

Square Enix and Producer/Director Naoki Yoshida, please shut down the Duty Finder for one week. Just one week. That's all I ask.

That would be really interesting social experiment and as bonus players would use Party Finder more. The question is how many of them would return to DF after it.

[ShaneDawn]

Wrong topic.

[Colorful]

That would be really interesting social experiment and as bonus players would use Party Finder more. The question is how many of them would return to DF after it.

Sometimes I just want to sit down, log in, queue for DREX and log off. Not go through the nonsense that is Party Finder for easy content and wait for it to fill up. So yeah, many will return to DF due to all content being more than doable on it and there's no doubt about that. Convenience trumps all, there is a reason the Dungeon Finder system is now a common thing in MMOs.

[Archaell]

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That's the thing we are discussing here. Some people don't care, that's kinda predictable. The issue is that healers and tanks who don't care are eyesore, they are in the limelight, while dps role is allowed to don't care in the shadows.

Sometimes I just want to sit down, log in, queue for DREX and log off. Not go through the nonsense that is Party Finder for easy content and wait for it to fill up. So yeah, many will return to DF due to all content being more than doable on it and there's no doubt about that. Convenience trumps all, there is a reason the Dungeon Finder system is now a common thing in MMOs.

That's the thing I am interested in - convenience. There is also reason why so many tanks and healers do not play with randoms - out of convenience.

[Odett]

Well... To me it seems more like back in P.E. in school, or if the work arranges an inofficial sporting event. Your team is chosen through lottery, you have no idea of knowing who you're going to end up with. Some people in your class/department are good at the sport, some play it every now and then, and some barely know the rules. If the ones good at the sport try to force the others in their team to play at their level, they're out of luck in two out of those three cases.

Stop with these analogies, please. When you queue up for something in this game, you're making a choice. No one is forcing you to participate like a required P.E class in school, and of course you can't expect people from your work to be halfway competent at something that has nothing to do with their line of work. You can't use the "barely know the rules" excuse because you don't start this game at level 60 (I mean, you can, but it's not valid). It's not like P.E or a work sporting event where you might or might not have previous experience with a sport. You've been playing this game for many hours to get to level 60, so it can't possibly be too much for me to hope that you're able to carry your own weight and have some understanding of how your skills work whenever you decide to participate in a dungeon.

[Azazua_azura]

The only way this is ever going to be fixed is by placing the responsibility of survivability solely on the player and to stop forcing such extreme synergy.

WoW never had these problems because of this. If you died, you died and it was your fault end of story.

WoW also hasd so many required addons that told you where to stand and what to press, the exact order and time to stand there and press buttons. People played the addond vs the game (and no this isn't an exageration i used to watch WoW vids daily and saw their screen HUd 0_0) Also
WoW was a more solo based mmo, due to the franchise it based on. Where final fantasy has been teambased play where each character had to help if most of the character died then the boss would kill you.