The issue nobody wants to address

[MentheusDreyar]

This guy gets it.

I would also say that SE needs to ease up on the DPS checks because of the knock-on effects of hyper-competitiveness and outright rude behavior.

But here's the issue, SE can't win either way... they tried mechanic based stuff before (see Step's of Faith), and clearly far too many people aren't good enough to get past even easy mechanics because they don't want to put in any effort, therefore it gets nerfed to the ground and becomes useless or the good players carry other people through it and the cycle repeats later.

Now on the other hand, the only other real way of challenging players currently is DPS checks. Tight ones that force the entire party to actively push DPS to get past it until the content is over geared. And we all know how that turns out...

See what he common cause is? People who don't want to put in effort to learning or doing content joining and letting the rest of the able party down because they lack the skill to play the game to acceptable levels that both the game and players require.

This is what parser's are made to help with, it's the people that are the issue, NOT the tool.

I swear it's like people want the entire game to be faceroll content you can get past by spamming a single skill... honestly we need more "toxicity" to to encourage players to get better, otherwise nothing will change, and a parser is one step towards that.

This is, imho, the most valid argument against parsers. It also ties into the everything becoming a dps race point I made a few pages back.

A counter to this, is to look at the games current meta, everything is dps, tanks, healers, everything is dps centric. Not exactly on you point I agree. Part of the fault in this, and your feeling, lies with the developers I think. Developers tend to consistently fall back on dps, and dps checks as the main core mechanic in almost every encounter you come across. If encounters were designed to be less reliant on dps, then I think it would alleviate this problem. However, this is a problem with MMO's as a whole, not just FFXIV. And meant for another thread I would say.

The fault is not entirely on the dev's they have clearly tried mechanic based content before, but the majority of the player base has shown they can't handle anything other than spamming buttons mindlessly, therefore the only other current alternative is a DPS check.

[Whiteroom]

The fault is not entirely on the dev's they have clearly tried mechanic based content before, but the majority of the player base has shown they can't handle anything other than spamming buttons mindlessly, therefore the only other current alternative is a DPS check.

True, but they are the ones in the position to nudge the community in a different direction. Falling back on dps checks for almost everything is the easy way out.

[Malevicton]

Insert Malevctions X's and O's image here please.

Whoo, it's my time to shine!

[Kuroyasha]

Whoo, it's my time to shine!

This is hilarious! xD

[Elazu]

This is hilarious! xD

And a perfect reflection of a large part of FFXIV's playerbase.

[MentheusDreyar]

And a perfect reflection of a large part of FFXIV's playerbase.

This is so true.... and so Sad...

[Archaell]

This is so true.... and so Sad...

We could blame game's difficulty and overgearing for that. You have probably noticed by now, but when you can finish most of the conent while being down 1 or more players, then there is something wrong with it.

Also there is lack of difficult single player content. I wonder how many players would pass just hard mode primals if it was locked behind solo trials focused on reasonable tanking/healing/dps checks.

[Colorful]

I wonder how many players would pass just hard mode primals if it was locked behind solo trials focused on reasonable tanking/healing/dps checks.

Not like it matters, it would be nerfed in a week after release regardless. Steps of Faith was so incredibly easy and yet it was nerfed and turned into a horribly boring fight, what once seemed like an interesting homage to Lao-Shan Lung is now an incredibly boring trial.

[Archaell]

Steps of Faith's nerf could be "justified" that it is hard to achieve that sort of coordination amongs randoms, while solo trials would require just coordination between one's fingers and hotbar. It could even increase longevity of content. "Git good" for a change would be nice imo.

[MentheusDreyar]

Not like it matters, it would be nerfed in a week after release regardless. Steps of Faith was so incredibly easy and yet it was nerfed and turned into a horribly boring fight, what once seemed like an interesting homage to Lao-Shan Lung is now an incredibly boring trial.

^ This

Sadly the vocal majority are the crappy players that can't handle simple mechanics so anything that involves thinking or communication is going to be nerfed to hell. Honestly i think many of us are getting tired with the constant nerfing of content, and to think there are still people who cant do the HM primals with echo....

As much as people would disagree, we really need mandatory solo skill gating, hell at this point anything that might encourage people to actually learn to play would be a vast improvement. The constant nerfing is not helping the game or the community at all, all it's doing is creating more frustration further down the line for both types of players.