I am in Adders on Chaos. We even had a match where we finished with a score of zero, and people were trying. That's not to say we don't win sometimes; the results are wildly variable, but crushing losing streaks are more common than wins.

The problem is that a lot of people do not seem to understand how Seize works. They think it is just about dpsing and they independently chase any targets who happen to be nearby regardless of the scores or the risks.

I think it would be good if Square-Enix made a promo video for Seal Rock which acts both like a beginner's guide and also an advertisement to both subscribers and non-subscribers to get people to try this out. Lots of people who already play the game just never considered doing any pvp, and I've gotten a couple of people hooked on it by telling them it's fun and explaining how the rules and scoring works.