Beastman Strongholds

[Kiote]

Perhaps this has been answered elsewhere but have these strongholds been confirmed to be rank 50 content? I only ask because SE seems to have been developing content for a large number of rank ranges and not just the top end.

Based on the location of the Camp at 48,40 east of Broken Water you can pretty much count these as 45-55 content.

[Murugan]

Yes, I also mentioned that the way the regional servers work. Mobs when they pop have a grace period after they pop when they can be truly claimed. Only a few seconds. However, in congested areas this will become a problem with RMT (Depending on where they are located and how close to the servers they are) vs NA, vs EU, and especially vs JP. Claiming will be a bitch for NA or EU players when paired with JP groups.

That is really not the way regional servers work, I guess you never played FFXI. NA linkshells constantly got pulls over JP groups, and botting while a serious problem does not make legitimate pulling impossible it simply removes human error and in the case of packet sniffing software the guesswork, which is why it was cheating. I never once used a bot in XI and I got pulls over bots, even Japanese bots (even Megabot Defender of the Galaxy) constantly. We are talking about a completely different pop system too, one which had well defined windows and dozens of players all trying to get the pull for hours at a time. This game has randomized pops within small windows, it is incomparable in terms of how much of an inconvenience it would be for you not to get the pull.

Still, you are greatly over exaggerating the "advantage" the JP players have due to server location.

[Kiote]

I would just like to point out that the Claiming system in LOTRO is exactly what they intend to implement into this game where in the Claimer reaps all rewards but anyone can kill the mob. So far, in that game, it has been a non-issue.

It is safe to say, outside of the dual-boxers and the people who got begged into PLing by their friends this will almost never rise as an issue.

As to the point of mass invasion of the area, that will likely work in the favor of all involved because if people are helping others kill, kills will be fast, xp will be plentiful, and the NM will be teamed. If you don't want help in your fights and you like the challenge, just give it a week.

[Felis]

I hope there are some patrols, too. Beastmens who patroling specific paths (alone or in a group of 3)

And don't forget, there are many beastmens. Attack the false and all the other bestmens are coming to help the comrade with the new link feature ^^

[viion]

haha not instanced, hilarious, due to new claiming system these will not be challenging at all because even if you wanted to duo/trio them you wont be able to for some time as people will just pound through them in masses of like 100 lol for first month then it will be like 10-20 people pounding through them, or maybe more since theres nothing else to do anyway.

like the idea but its much better to save this stuff until you can pop out like 20 strongholds so people spread out.

[Cycloptichorn]

haha not instanced, hilarious, due to new claiming system these will not be challenging at all because even if you wanted to duo/trio them you wont be able to for some time as people will just pound through them in masses of like 100 lol for first month then it will be like 10-20 people pounding through them, or maybe more since theres nothing else to do anyway.

like the idea but its much better to save this stuff until you can pop out like 20 strongholds so people spread out.

I highly doubt this. Just like pretty much all other content that's new, a bunch of peeps with no life will mob these things hard for about a week, and then get bored and go back to bitching about how this game sucks. Then the rest of us will, just as right now, go about enjoying the crap out of it.

The idea that 100 people are going to get together and mob the thing on a regular basis is not credible. It's hard enough to get a party of 8 together in this game consistently, let alone one's whole LS...

[Jennestia]

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Still, you are greatly over exaggerating the "advantage" the JP players have due to server location.

We had no advantage over western players unless you get technical and realize that in 2001-2003 people still mainly used Dial-up out west due to broadband being highly expensive, however XI was designed (and still is) for dial-up connections, so barely 0.1ms better latency isn't enough to give an advantage over someone located out of Japan, unless your country in general is known to have issues connecting with Japan.

[viion]

I highly doubt this. Just like pretty much all other content that's new, a bunch of peeps with no life will mob these things hard for about a week, and then get bored and go back to bitching about how this game sucks. Then the rest of us will, just as right now, go about enjoying the crap out of it.

The idea that 100 people are going to get together and mob the thing on a regular basis is not credible. It's hard enough to get a party of 8 together in this game consistently, let alone one's whole LS...

Im not saying 100 will get together, what im saying is

1 Stronghold in 1 area
No claim system
vs
1000 people online (or however many there are) aka entire server

So its not even about getting people together, the entire server is going to bash them, and even when everyone begins to stop, as there is still nothing else to do in game they will be at least 10-20 people still bashing these. So wonder if they've been "optimized" for that, like they said they balanced the crap out of dungeons, look how that turned out lol.

Hopefully they will post more in the next coming days but unless they pop out 20 from no where and just say have 2, people will just go to the "best" one. Like r45 dung.

[Konachibi]

Plus it was already reported by Yoshi himself that this 'server lag' isn't because of the servers, it's a problem with the animation packages.

They are working on fixing this post-1.19.
Yoshi also said that.

[Sigmakan]

Black shroud will be off of Nine Ivies and La Nocea will be off of Iron lake . 48,40 in Thanalan fall just east of Broken Water. Too bad, I was hoping they would have implemented these in a new Area..

Why do you say that? Treespeak (which is near Lasthold) is an R40 area like Broken Water. Bald Knoll (which is near Isles of Umbra) is also an R40 area.