Quote Originally Posted by Turin View Post
This also plays to the reason why if you are in queue for over 30 minutes, you should just withdraw and requeue.
30 minutes? I abandon and re-que as soon as I hit the "average player wait" time lol. For Flames on my server, that's about 9 minute at the moment.

You're right to say it's more complicated. The DF really isn't built for PvP ques, and there are downsides to almost every que line solution. 24 man matches might help ease the stress, but, because of the nature of those matches and how much more intense they are, they'd dissuade more casual players from playing PvP.