Healing help with a sch as a whm in a1s.

[Rin_Kuroi]

Yay! A1S down. A big thanks to everyone in this thread. We used the holmgang and final phase adds tips. They really helped.

I also healed it without brd/mch. That required me to change up my healing some so I didn't oom myself. It was great to have a solid sch that could pickup a bit of the healing.

[Beyondgrave]

Now on to A2S you go! Let us know if you need help with that

[DarkerOrange]

Hope you like solo healing :P haha. SCH should be DPSing 80-90% of A2S.

[shadowrell_d-_-b]

Hi I'm the new sch of the group, I have played sch since relaunch of The game back in 2.0 so i like to think I am a high level sch in this game from fairy management, to dps rotation, sch is all I do! That said we would never have gotten as1 down if not for the outstanding healing of our whm Rae (the threads OP) It's such a huge relief to know that I can trust my whm while I dps, so while he has told me how much better it's been having a dependable sch I could never be nearly as effective if it wasn't for his great healing! As1 down As2 up next!

[Rin_Kuroi]

Well, we got to phase 8. I don't think I can do this one without a brd/mch. I wish we could fill that spot.

A few questions if people don't mind.

Do you stun the pack in wave 4? We were initially stunning that pack and things were good. However, the driver needed more energy so we stopped doing it. Now I have two snipers in my face. That's makes the 4 - 5 transition a pain. It's really hard to keep the tanks topped off when I get interrupted and have to heal myself. The tanks being topped off before wave 5 means I'll be more likely to solo heal it.

How much do you think a sch should heal in wave 5 with the double widows? The damage on the tanks seem spiky during that first part of that phase. I'm thinking about having the sch help heal through the first prey and/or until the soldiers are dead. After that I feel like I can keep the tanks topped off pretty easy.

EDIT: /wave knala.

[KarstenS]

Well, we got to phase 8. I don't think I can do this one without a brd/mch.

Its all about "get a feel for the fight" and optimizing.

We lost out bard right after our first A1S kill 10 weeks ago, are still looking for a new one, have temporary filled that spot with a second summoner and got A2S down 2 weeks later.

[Rin_Kuroi]

Its all about "get a feel for the fight" and optimizing.

We lost out bard right after our first A1S kill 10 weeks ago, are still looking for a new one, have temporary filled that spot with a second summoner and got A2S down 2 weeks later.

Yeah. Maybe. I recall feeling the same way starting a1s. The i200 gear helped a lot but it was also figuring a rotation that worked without a brd.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

Do you stun the pack in wave 4? We were initially stunning that pack and things were good. However, the driver needed more energy so we stopped doing it. Now I have two snipers in my face. That's makes the 4 - 5 transition a pain. It's really hard to keep the tanks topped off when I get interrupted and have to heal myself. The tanks being topped off before wave 5 means I'll be more likely to solo heal it.

I have the same issue to deal with, except I'm an Astrologian. Aspected Benefic in Diurnal sect is enough to keep me (or the other healer) alive, surely Regen can as well.

How much do you think a sch should heal in wave 5 with the double widows? The damage on the tanks seem spiky during that first part of that phase. I'm thinking about having the sch help heal through the first prey and/or until the soldiers are dead. After that I feel like I can keep the tanks topped off pretty easy.

Advice here can go two ways; get helped or stay solo. But keep in mind that while healer DPS is nice, endurance is a bigger factor in this encounter. Considering you have no bard or machinist, it's an even greater factor. The biggest source of damage for a Scholar would be spreading the DoTs. While he/she can use Broil/Ruin as filler spell to deal some extra damage, it may make or break the encounter in the long run. Unless your group is hitting the "enrage" for Alexander Savage 2, your Scholar should help out healing instead if you're constantly running out of MP. Whoever you're healing with will need to find the balance of dealing damage and concentrating on healing (in favor of "endurance").

[Ghishlain]

My group usually stuns Wave 4 and just goes ham on everything. This allowed me as a SCH to output more DPS and fairy + WHM was more than enough to keep tank holding Walker alive.

Keep in mind depending on how you transition into Wave 5, the tank that held the Walker may have 3+ stacks of vulnerability. This will make their Widow hit like a truck initially. Tank should be properly shielded leading up to transition to help mitigate this. I can usually get away to help DPS once the Soldiers are handled though I stay to heal until the vulnerability stacks wear off. Virus on said Widow can assist too.

Most of what I'll writing next is what I do as a SCH for my group and should be modified to suit what healers you're going with / how you two heal together / party composition:

• Eye for an Eye + Deployment Tactics for Waves 5, 7, and 9
• Sacred Soil at the beginning of Waves 7, 8, and 9 to help reduce the oncoming onslaught. Apply more as necessary. For Wave 8, I tend put right on top of the adds spawning the corner since your Walker will be waiting for all Goblins to gather before stunning. This can lead to a lot of damage be mounted up on the healer(s) who have aggro (or PLD if they're covering said healer). Wave 9, in the corner where everyone gathers once they're all gathered.
• Dissipation at the beginning of Wave 9 can be helpful during progression. Three stacks for Lustrate (or 1 Indomitability + 2 Lustrates) and some normal (but boosted) healing will far outstrip how much healing your Fairy can heal for the duration of the 30s it's not there. Just be sure to pop all cooldowns on the fairy before using Dissipation. Wave 9 is just pure front end damage and you'll want as much healing capacity as possible to handle that initially. The MP cost to resummon the fairy should be negligible once you've gotten it down to the two Widows and one Doll.

Since you're lacking a BRD / MCH ATM, your SCH will probably want to be a bit less liberal with the DPS as it's quite the MP drain.

I have the same issue to deal with, except I'm an Astrologian. Aspected Benefic in Diurnal sect is enough to keep me (or the other healer) alive, surely Regen can as well.

Just a small comment about this - Aspected Benefic in Diurnal is more powerful than Regen in terms of raw potency and loses out in MP efficiency when you don't factor in Divine Seal. Within the same duration, Regen is about 13% less potent than Aspect Benefic within the same duration so you may need a little assistance depending on how just hard the healers are being smacked for. Judge for yourself once you've had more time to play with it.

[Rin_Kuroi]

I have the same issue to deal with, except I'm an Astrologian. Aspected Benefic in Diurnal sect is enough to keep me (or the other healer) alive, surely Regen can as well.

Makes sense. I might be hesitating with regen too much because I'm worried about agro. A couple of regens on myself and the tanks could do it. Divine Seal as needed.

Advice here can go two ways; get helped or stay solo. But keep in mind that while healer DPS is nice, endurance is a bigger factor in this encounter. Considering you have no bard or machinist, it's an even greater factor. The biggest source of damage for a Scholar would be spreading the DoTs. While he/she can use Broil/Ruin as filler spell to deal some extra damage, it may make or break the encounter in the long run. Unless your group is hitting the "enrage" for Alexander Savage 2, your Scholar should help out healing instead if you're constantly running out of MP. Whoever you're healing with will need to find the balance of dealing damage and concentrating on healing (in favor of "endurance").

Good point. Not considering mana, I feel its possible for me to solo heal through wave 5. Regens on the tanks. Cure spam back and forth between the two. The fairy helps. At the very least I should be able to give the sch some time to dot up and bane between the prey mechanics. I dunno. It's entirely possible we could have kept going through phase 8 but both our mana pools were dry. We had a smn, blm and mnk. Things were melting. I guess its on us to figure out a non-conventional healing method so we can endure.