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    Nope, I didn't know that :\ That honestly just makes it even more ridiculous.

    Anyway... I dunno how I feel about crafting at the moment. Part of me says that the amount of work that goes into it wouldn't be so bad if the reward was worth it. Another part of me says there isn't a reward that can be worth the amount of work people currently have to put into it. It's really hard to stay motivated to log on every day and keep my guild going when the game seems to actively discourage me from playing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CatfishCassie View Post
    Anyway... I dunno how I feel about crafting at the moment.
    Don't worry, you're not the only one. The whole DoH structure in HW is a mess. Just about every aspect of it has something that's not quite right about it. Recipes require far too many materials. Basic (indeed, leveling!) recipes are locked behind Master books. DoW/DoM gear is largely pointless (both at 60 and pre-cap, because of the availability of HQ gear from quests). The grind is incredibly gated, and making 2-star gear requires Red Scrips from *both* crafters and gatherers. DoW/M content now has almost no interaction with crafting at cap. Class quests have lackluster rewards. Specialization is essentially pointless. And on and on.
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    The main points of crafting right now, as far as my wife and I are concerned, is 1) prepare for whatever may come in 3.1 in November, and 2) make a modest amount of money selling food and potions. Regarding the second point, tho, most of our income seems to be coming from gathering these days.

    Maybe preparing for an unknown future doesn't seem like a reward to some people. Opinions vary.

    But it doesn't matter. For us, crafting, like solving a puzzle, is it's own reward. We high-five after successfully HQ'ing a two-star craft. (We craft 2-Star items sitting side-by-side, with one of us running the applicable crafter -- I do BSM CRP LTW ARM, she does the rest -- and the other one supervising. It helps prevent mistakes.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Maybe preparing for an unknown future doesn't seem like a reward to some people. Opinions vary.
    Did you craft much in ARR? That aspect has always been there, and still remains, but what's different about HW compared to ARR is that we once had both the ability to somewhat "futureproof" (available gear/stat caps have always been higher than the highest tier of starred crafting) and the ability to create useful and unique items once we *reached* that highest tier. The latter is now largely missing, and we only have the former. It's essentially that removal that has those crafters who dislike the new structure dissatisfied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alahra View Post
    Did you craft much in ARR?
    Not enough to be one of the few elite crafters making obscene profits off of raiders, if that's your point.
    But enough to have all crafts to 50 and be tired of grinding Ehcatl sealant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Not enough to be one of the few elite crafters making obscene profits off of raiders, if that's your point.
    But enough to have all crafts to 50 and be tired of grinding Ehcatl sealant.
    I was curious because not to belittle but more because you seemed to be approaching crafting from a different standpoint than others that are frustrated with the current state of things. For those of us that were focused on making starred raiding gear and the like, the newer system doesn't offer a lot of what it used to. Outside of doing that stuff, it's honestly fairly well constructed and I can see why others enjoy it.
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    Crafted Items that require Crafters and Adventurers

    I think many of us have posted similar feelings in the past. I do hope the Dev Team hears us and reacts to it.

    I posted a question on this topic in the Ask a Question Thread for the upcoming Producer Live Letter. Hit "Like" button (or post your own question) and hopefully we'll get an answer from the Dev Team soon:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3362147
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara View Post
    I think many of us have posted similar feelings in the past. I do hope the Dev Team hears us and reacts to it.

    I posted a question on this topic in the Ask a Question Thread for the upcoming Producer Live Letter. Hit "Like" button (or post your own question) and hopefully we'll get an answer from the Dev Team soon:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3362147
    And I hope they will "answer" it instead of "avoiding" it this time. (and like many times before)

    We will know that when the LIVE LETTER on.
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