Combat Glamours

[Colorful]

There's notable dissatisfaction with the current system for crafters, as we essentially are only creating things for ourselves. Nearly all MMOs have a crafting structure that involves crafters making items *for other players* as that's how the economy works. Currently, crafters have very little that they can make for others that's actually in demand. Even the glamour sets aren't really profitable, as they're one of the few things crafters can actually make that other people want, which results in there being a lot more supply than demand for these items.

Could you list any themepark MMO that gives the ability for crafters to create high end gear? The only major themepark MMOs I can think of are WoW and Guild Wars 2, possibly WildStar if that doesn't die out, none of those allow for high end gear to be crafted. In fact, it's worse than FFXIV, in WoW (or at least back when I played), crafted gear was absolute trash, in FFXIV you can craft i180 which is still signfiicantly below Esoterics, but not to the point of being practically worthless. The reason people don't buy them is the absurd price, why would I spend a few million on those when I could grab law (I've been capped for at least a month or two now) but I guess that's SE's fault for making the mats hard to obtain.

As for glamour sets not being profitable, well that tends to happen with everything once the item is no longer rare, as is the case with PvE or PvP. If you were one of the people who made the items early you'd have sold them for over 30+ million, and they did sell at those prices. But regardless, I constantly hear of crafters making dozens of millions and spending millions and millions on gamble, there's money to be made even if it's not glamour. At this point I wonder what crafters are doing with all that gil, but I suppose some find it fun to try to hit gil cap.

[Alahra]

in FFXIV you can craft i180 which is still signfiicantly below Esoterics, but not to the point of being practically worthless. The reason people don't buy them is the absurd price, why would I spend a few million on those when I could grab law (I've been capped for at least a month or two now) but I guess that's SE's fault for making the mats hard to obtain.

That's exactly the problem with the system, though. Everything's too gated for the recipes that we have available to actually be meaningful. Crafters in FFXIV have never been able to make top-end gear by and large, except for a few corner case pieces in the 2.4 raid tier (which was due more to poor itemization of 130 gear than an actual problem with the crafted gear itself), and crafted accessories for tanks (but again, that's less of a problem with crafting and more a problem of itemization).

If we could actually reasonably make the i180 gear, we wouldn't be near as upset with the current system. As it is, with the current gating, the gear *might* become readily available at some point during the 3.2 patch, at which point it won't be in demand with the suite of simple gearing options available through a combination of Esoterics, Void Ark, Alexander NM, and potentially from Exploratory Missions.

When it comes to the glamour sets, that's kind of the point: they aren't a longterm market (combat gear, on the other hand, generally sustains itself for a long time). They have much more narrow appeal than gear that's actually usable by their very nature. They have always started at extremely high prices, with low supply and initially high demand and quickly plummeted to a state of high supply and low demand. That's been the case for anything from early pieces like the Spring Dress and Taffeta Shawl to the Thavnairian stuff we have now.