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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    we already have completely flat shoes/boots/whatnots already, so I fail to see how that reasoning still stands tbh.
    I'm not sure we actually do, though. Gear in this game doesn't replace the body part they cover (as they did in FFXI), but instead covers and surrounds it. Even the flattest shoe in the game has a sole thick enough to pad the space between the foot and the ground. Remove that, and the foot is actually hovering ABOVE the ground.

    To have bare feet that avoid this problem, character models would actually have to be lowered to the ground whenever footwear was removed, which could introduce a host of other problems depending on what methods SE uses to determine how game models interact with one another.

    It's for this same reason that we'll likely never see actual high-heel or platform shoes. Any footwear that changes the hight of the model is not a simple change to make. It's one that has a lot of side effects that may not be immediately plain. This is why SE is reluctant to do such a thing.

    One possible solution would be to just ignore the padding, and let the bare-foot enthusiasts hover everywhere they go. It wouldn't be pretty, but I doubt it'd be a whole lot worse than the sundry clipping issues that already exist in the game...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    To have bare feet that avoid this problem, character models would actually have to be lowered to the ground whenever footwear was removed, which could introduce a host of other problems depending on what methods SE uses to determine how game models interact with one another.
    This is probably the issue, but why *can't* they change character height? Not all characters are the same height. They already store our height somehow. Why can't they change it? I guess the game just isn't coded for it, since they need to make sure our clothes don't scale down when they have our height change, and they need to make sure our clothes don't float a few inches above our bodies and so on.


    That said, they could totally have us float a few inches off the ground at all times. We're the freaking Warrior of Light! We can float if we want to! :O
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    I'd like to actually be barefoot while I idle in my hot tub overnight. The fact that I wear shoes in there baffles me. xD
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    Y'shtola and Nanamo barefoot were special models.

    If they get rid of the sandals, your heels would be floating in the air. It's to accomodate for boots.

    Either deal with it, or when they do let you hide those sandals, you get to deal with your heels floating in the air.

    I'll take heeled boots over flat bare feet any day. Super flat boots are stupid uncomfortable to walk in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    ...and I have to ask, once again, as I've asked this with in regards to quite a few other things: why does "not easy" have to mean "not gonna happen" in this game? x_x I do believe everyone could live something like "it's gonna take time", I mean, nobody's really asking for stuff to be done right this instant........... But yeah, this too is another one of those things that are totally basic, yet for some weird reason it's nigh impossible here.

    And indeed, the hovering wouldn't be any worse than much of the clipping we've gotten used to since launch.

    Because if I remember right, SE said they won't *because* of the effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Any footwear that changes the hight of the model is not a simple change to make. It's one that has a lot of side effects that may not be immediately plain. This is why SE is reluctant to do such a thing.
    ...and I have to ask, once again, as I've asked this with in regards to quite a few other things: why does "not easy" have to mean "not gonna happen" in this game? x_x I do believe everyone could live something like "it's gonna take time", I mean, nobody's really asking for stuff to be done right this instant........... But yeah, this too is another one of those things that are totally basic, yet for some weird reason it's nigh impossible here.

    And indeed, the hovering wouldn't be any worse than much of the clipping we've gotten used to since launch.
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    Yes this would be a great option to have but I don't think they going to do it. Best we have that closest to barefoot is the lady's/lord's clogs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    I'm not sure we actually do, though. Gear in this game doesn't replace the body part they cover (as they did in FFXI), but instead covers and surrounds it. Even the flattest shoe in the game has a sole thick enough to pad the space between the foot and the ground. Remove that, and the foot is actually hovering ABOVE the ground.
    This is really not a issue for those that really want the option.
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    It's always been absurd to me that you can't do this... you are at beach resorts, in baths, sleeping in bed or just going around in your house/room... in them things.

    One solution would be to do something similar what DoA5 did, and do something that would extend the leg "model" so the high heeled default isn't apparent... in that games case they added a "shoe" that went over the default foot model to make a bare foot on the models... it sounds absurd but it's really quite simple, and would mean no more bathing or sleeping in shoes.

    Making a "boot" of sufficient length that makes the foot model flat on the ground, while replacing with an "extended shin" or "thigh" of matching length to the point lowered by the foot that usually is taken up by the heel of sole of the shoes is essentially it... if that makes sense.
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    I hope this should happen, its not a big deal if the barefoot can hover above the ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    ...and I have to ask, once again, as I've asked this with in regards to quite a few other things: why does "not easy" have to mean "not gonna happen" in this game? x_x I do believe everyone could live something like "it's gonna take time", I mean, nobody's really asking for stuff to be done right this instant........... But yeah, this too is another one of those things that are totally basic, yet for some weird reason it's nigh impossible here.

    And indeed, the hovering wouldn't be any worse than much of the clipping we've gotten used to since launch.
    You'd have to be a 3D modeler to understand why that would be a pain in the ass. Those guys are experts but it still is tough to mess with.
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