Honestly, This is one guy trying to talk to you about the everyday struggles of raiders. Not hardcore raiders.

I'm a raider too, though of course, i think whats keeping my static and me in for raiding is the fact that raiding is ca challenge but i suppose we've built up a bond, so there's a slight social factor to it. *wink*

More then that.

Its definitely true that Alex Savage is really punishing. Perhaps it might reward people in it for the challenge, however, generalization and saying all raiders are just looking for challenge isn't the fact.

Yes, we have some people who raid to up e peen with awesome equipment, etc. However, that's not why EVERYBODY raids. Its true that raiders just want to excel in what they do, and equipment being the best is one of it. We don't care if people get same ilvls in time to come. We just want to strive to be the best in our jobs. Be it rotations, etc. That's why for some raiders, equipment is important.


Then we have people just in it for the story. I agree with the OP on this. The reason why many people wanted to attempt coil was for the story. when you have a story that is gated behind the raid, in some sense, people want to attempt it, just to experience the story, which perhaps to them was the only reward. So please do understand that when Alex normal came out then savage alex, to find content that has become more difficult then Coil (Savage alex) has no more of that story reward, sort of kills off the motivation. Please understand not from your casual lenses or your hardcore lenses and see that these people started raiding because of WHAT Coil offered in terms of story. When you take that motivation out, they would just rather stick to norm alex or eventually just lose motivation for alex savage.

The OP here is highlighting the struggles of the raiding community. NOT a specific group of hardcore raiders.

He's trying to get you all to feel us and not treat us like thrash on the forums. Though honestly, I don't give a dam about people who disparage raiders here. Forums tend to reflect only 20% of people who tend to be vocal, while there's a 80% silent majority. Its true forums can represent the community to a certain extent, but not always.

So before you get onto your moral high ground, or get your swords, arrows, spells to turn this entire dam thread to a flame war or a debate about casuals vs hardcore raiders... Please hear the cry of the poor dude to relate to us as a fellow FFXIV player who just wants to have fun in his own way. Right now its increasingly becoming so tense in the forums here where its CONFORM MY WAY OR DIE.

Since when has our society progressed and then digressed to the period of colonialism where we think our own ways are superior compared to the other?

Food for thought dudes.