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    Well, I figure it is initially undyeable due to essentially being the armor from Tactics Ogre. I believe that was the first game that art designer Akihiko Yoshida worked on, and this was the 20th anniversary of that game and of Yoshida's employment at Square. So having it in the game is similar to having the Warror of Light armor in crystal tower, or any of the other classic armors, most of which were initially undyeable.

    We'll probably get dyeable versions later, but for now I'll bet they want to celebrate the history of the designs and their creator.
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    I don't mind it being a crafting recipe as long as I can dye it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunspec View Post
    Well, I figure it is initially undyeable due to essentially being the armor from Tactics Ogre. I believe that was the first game that art designer Akihiko Yoshida worked on, and this was the 20th anniversary of that game and of Yoshida's employment at Square. So having it in the game is similar to having the Warror of Light armor in crystal tower, or any of the other classic armors, most of which were initially undyeable.

    We'll probably get dyeable versions later, but for now I'll bet they want to celebrate the history of the designs and their creator.
    Why does that make it not dyable? I don't mind if being special but its not exactly like its concept art or like the game it was derived from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Why does that make it not dyable? I don't mind if being special but its not exactly like its concept art or like the game it was derived from.
    Because it's paying an homage to another game? And honestly, the Valerian and Baldur weapons are some of the best looking weapons in the game. Particularly the PLD weapons and the Baldur daggers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by o3o View Post
    its probably coming as a reskin dye-able set of crafted gear in the next upcoming patches like all other dungeon gear.

    please look forward to it
    Drg one is plain but not too plain and its not over the top plate mail also seems to give female characters more curves due to the tabard.

    Have millions saved up just for when they make it craftable with weekly tomestones cap items...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunspec View Post
    Well, I figure it is initially undyeable due to essentially being the armor from Tactics Ogre.
    This is probably exactly why you can't dye it. It's iconic, so to speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    This is probably exactly why you can't dye it. It's iconic, so to speak.
    Then why can we dye Cloud's Armor? Its iconic.

    Why can we change certain hair colors? Its iconic.

    Why can't we --... Just because something is iconic doesn't mean it can't be personalified. Your speaking of a single player game vs a MMO. Its not fun to see 39 people with the exact same looking outfit as you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
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    It might actually have to do with licensing the art. SE bought Quest out and therefore owns the Ogre series, but Yoshida, Matsuno, and even Sakimoto are now freelancers. They don't work for SE and SE may not own the rights to manipulate the art at will.

    So, for example, if Yoshida - or whoever owns the right to the designs - requested that the armor not be dyable if used in-game, SE would have to comply. This isn't uncommon in Japanese games with cross-overs.

    Meanwhile, SE definitely, absolutely has an iron grip over everything FF.
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    3.2 3 stars Valerian Steel / Valerian Thread and Valerian Leather gear. Also Wait for the Augmented versions of them AND augmented AF2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    It might actually have to do with licensing the art. SE bought Quest out and therefore owns the Ogre series, but Yoshida, Matsuno, and even Sakimoto are now freelancers. They don't work for SE and SE may not own the rights to manipulate the art at will.

    So, for example, if Yoshida - or whoever owns the right to the designs - requested that the armor not be dyable if used in-game, SE would have to comply. This isn't uncommon in Japanese games with cross-overs.

    Meanwhile, SE definitely, absolutely has an iron grip over everything FF.
    Yeah, except this is an MMORPG. When you add something to an MMORPG you have to go by the logic of the game, if something is dyable or can be made different it should be put into the game. If it can't then it should of never been added in the first place.

    Its basicly a tease and actually hurts the armor's value because nobody likes "Attack of the Clones."
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