NO MORE ALEXANDER(NM)!

[Nadirah]

I still maintain that they should have released Alex normal and then an entirely different, progressive raid instead of savage.

So you want exclusive, completely different content to stroke your ego in a non raid centric game.

How about no?

[StrejdaTom]

So you want exclusive, completely different content to stroke your ego in a non raid centric game.

How about no?

Wanting completely different content has nothing to do with ego and only casuals seem to use this argument all over again.
What's so hard to understand on the fact that when someone spends lots of time doing something, he maybe wants it to be... entertaining?
How can be raiding entertaining when the requirement to do it is a gear from almost the same encounter with same bosses and arenas? And yeah, having normal Alex gear mixed with ESO is requirement for Alex Savage unless you plan to do it in 2016, which kinda wouldn't make sense.

The only thing I am seeing in this thread are a few elitists asking something impossible and entitled casuals who feel like everything has to be handed out to them because they pay subscription.

Even content for 5% of community is worth doing, no content caters to everyone and having stuff to do for casuals and for hardcore players only expands the community.
You guys don't care for savage and don't mind anything that happens to it, well I do. Coil was the only reason I kept logging a few times a week and Alex Savage would be the same if it wasn't so hard to maintain static with all these people leaving of boredoom. People who feel the same try to figure out how to make hardcore raiding appealing to people again and all you are doing is just being afraid that you might not have 100% of FFXIVs content for you. Everything except savage in this game is completely fine and doable without any difficulties and still, even the savage seems to be thorn in eye for everyone...

I understand your point, however, normal IS part of the gear progression. Raiders aren't burning themselves out on normal because they want to see the environment and story over and over and over again. Its purpose is also gear progression.

No reason to make the same encounter on hard mode. A different raid would have been fine whether everyone got to experience it or not. I don't get this "everyone has to see everything every game has to offer." If non-raiders don't see all the raid environments that's perfectly ok. They're NON-RAIDERS.

For me crafting was always unreachable as raiding is unreachable for some people, but I never was on forums saying there should be less finances going into crafting and more in raiding or anything else like that. Some people really think that the whole game should cater only to them because they are the majority.

How, exactly, would this stroke my ego?

I never did coils, never will. I'll never do savage. And if SE had made a completely different, progressive raid to follow Alex, I most likely would never have done that either. That's my choice. Why should people who enjoy a harder, progressive game experience be required to burn themselves out in the same damn encounter over and over because that's not what I want to do?

Talk about selfish . . .

Glad I have seen someone like this today, faith in community restored.

TL;DR:
Raiders have and always had only one piece of content that was truly made for them and now the content was completely downgraded by the need to farm its another version before entering to the savage (that's a fact, doing savage with fully eso gear having 800 ACC makes completely no sense). Asking for change is apparently selfish. OK.

[Bodicca]

So you want exclusive, completely different content to stroke your ego in a non raid centric game.

How about no?

How, exactly, would this stroke my ego?

I never did coils, never will. I'll never do savage. And if SE had made a completely different, progressive raid to follow Alex, I most likely would never have done that either. That's my choice. Why should people who enjoy a harder, progressive game experience be required to burn themselves out in the same damn encounter over and over because that's not what I want to do?

Talk about selfish . . .

[Nadirah]

How, exactly, would this stroke my ego?

I never did coils, never will. I'll never do savage. And if SE had made a completely different, progressive raid to follow Alex, I most likely would never have done that either. That's my choice. Why should people who enjoy a harder, progressive game experience be required to burn themselves out in the same damn encounter over and over because that's not what I want to do?

Talk about selfish . . .

They have it though.

IT'S CALLED SAVAGE.

WoW also had a TON of things to do other than raid. Not any more.

During its glory days through Wrath, Blizzard succeeded in creating a world with its own culture. That is the sole reason that WoW boasted over 12 million subs at one point. LFR, CRZ and ridiculous accessibility ruined that culture. It's a shame, too, because they "had it." But like you said they threw it away by making things easy for the player - from removing RP items like regents and ammo to removing the community.

RIP WoW.

You want to know what killed wow?

This attitude:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/205...hard-1-11-2011

Everything talked about in this video(warning, "fruity" language, NSFW profanity):
https://youtu.be/egkF2BIs7QY

Not the content, not the accessibility. THAT.

[Verius_Nox]

So you want exclusive, completely different content to stroke your ego in a non raid centric game.

How about no?

If it's a non-raid centric game, as you say, so it shouldn't matter if there is a story, because the game isn't centered around Coil/Alexander.

Or do you simply want to stroke your own ego because now you can have that 1% of content, that as you say the game isn't centered around, without doing anything for it?

[Nadirah]

If it's a non-raid centric game, as you say, so it shouldn't matter if there is a story, because the game isn't centered around Coil/Alexander.

Or do you simply want to stroke your own ego because now you can have that 1% of content, that as you say the game isn't centered around, without doing anything for it?

What in the actual hell are you talking about?

You have your exclusive content and now you're trying to take ours. Buzz off please.

[Verius_Nox]

What in the actual hell are you talking about?

You have your exclusive content and now you're trying to take ours. Buzz off please.

There is no exclusive content, not anymore. I got to see the content doing the story mode people like yourself begged for. The 1% of the content you wanted so badly, always you you you you.

You're selfish and egotistical to think all content should be catered exactly for you, even the 1% you yourself said the game isn't even centered around.

[hagare]

There is no exclusive content, not anymore. I got to see the content doing the story mode people like yourself begged for. The 1% of the content you wanted so badly, always you you you you.

You're selfish and egotistical to think all content should be catered exactly for you, even the 1% you yourself said the game isn't even centered around.

dyable gear, exclusive mount, challenge.
you wanting more stuff is fine.
you wanting to reduce other people's content so you can have more exclusivity is selfish and egotistical
As it is right now, no content is held back from you. You have more exclusives.
what you want is not more content, but reduced content for 99% of people who are not like you.

[Verius_Nox]

dyable gear, exclusive mount, challenge.
you wanting more stuff is fine.
you wanting to reduce other people's content so you can have more exclusivity is selfish and egotistical
As it is right now, no content is held back from you. You have more exclusives.
what you want is not more content, but reduced content for 99% of people who are not like you.

Never said to take away normal mode, but thanks for playing assumptions.