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    Honinbo Dosaku
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlyna View Post
    It's really weird because they wanted to: Make crafting more accessible, reduce the need for cross-class skills
    And that's a great success ! You can craft top-end gear without using a single post-50 skill. They're all junk.
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    Z'nnah Silverbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgbspender View Post
    You can craft top-end gear without using a single post-50 skill. They're all junk.
    Precise Touch is hardly "junk."
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    Ksenia Solo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Precise Touch is hardly "junk."
    I can see why people feel it is though. It's basic touch but it procs with only a condition change. They are both 18 cp, 100% efficiency, 70% success.

    Like Byregot's Brow I think there is something more to it though. Math on Byregot's Blessing says it's better but I've used both with good proc finish and Brow produces more results.
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    Caimie Tsukino
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksenia View Post
    I can see why people feel it is though. It's basic touch but it procs with only a condition change. They are both 18 cp, 100% efficiency, 70% success.
    I hope you do realize how strong Precise Touch is comparing to Basic Touch, right? The real power comes from that additional IQ stack... Even if the skill cost 25 CP, it'll still be vastly stronger than a Basic Touch! 1 extra IQ stack sometimes can be a difference between Heaven and Hell!

    Usually about 2 Precise Touches is a reasonable amount of CP investment that will send your IQ stack sky high when added to your existing IQ stack was built up from those hated hasties.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ksenia View Post
    Like Byregot's Brow I think there is something more to it though. Math on Byregot's Blessing says it's better but I've used both with good proc finish and Brow produces more results.
    Brow produces more results when your IQ stack is below 6. However, the problem with Brow is that you can't plan it since it has to land on a "Good". For Byregot's Blessing, we ALWAYS plan at least a Great Strides before it. We never use Byregot's Blessing alone. That 56 CP (32 on GS, 24 on Blessing) at the end is essential. For Brow, you just can't activate a Great Strides, and hope the Brow to pop. It's a 32 CP investment on the GS. Anyway, any level 60+ items will likely require at least IQ9 with i150 gear. Thus, Brow is completely useless.
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    Last edited by Caimie_Tsukino; 09-27-2015 at 08:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgbspender View Post
    And that's a great success ! You can craft top-end gear without using a single post-50 skill. They're all junk.
    Well, I think you meant "specialist skills" instead of "post-50 skills". After all, we have all been using Muscle Mem / Maker's Mark & Precise Touch for pretty much everything 1 star or above. But I get your point, apart from these few skills, all those specialist skills so far seem unnecessary.

    I am pretty confident that S-E will somehow make them more useful in future patches though. We'll see.
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    Last edited by Caimie_Tsukino; 09-27-2015 at 08:51 PM.