Paladins on Alex 3 Savage

[Synestra]

IIt does good damage and enough agro if your NIN is using Shadewalker on you right at the pull.

What happens if you dont have NiN? just curious.

[Sapphidia]

What happens if you dont have NiN? just curious.

You're pretty much forced to do 1-2 full halone combos in shield oath depending on burstiness of your lineup before swapping to Sword Oath, or at least one full FoF-buffed Halone combo. You'll probably also need to slip in halones during your sword oath dps rotations. Ninjas are just a ridiculous boost to Paladin efficiency from a threat perspective. If we could generate that kind of threat in Sword Oath -without- a ninja you'd probably see more groups running them.

Our group actually runs a rather suboptimal PLD+DRK lineup without a Ninja, so I'm rather well versed on just how limited paladin threat can be when trying to push DPS - even a paladin with a ninja will have DPS riding really close to their threat levels if they're doing their max dps Sword Oath rotation, so one without a Ninja and with no 10% slashing debuff has to really push threat like a madwoman to stay ahead. I definitely end up spending a much larger time in Shield Oath than most of the heavily progressed paladins, though thankfully we seem to be getting by nicely by shifting a bit more of the dps onto the healers.

[Synestra]

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Kinda figured out it would be something like that, NiN's got some neat and unique utility in this expansion(dat upcoming 24man trolling tho).